Something freezing for 10 minutes is just wrong.  It’s not acceptable anywhere 
so you know something is gravely wrong with that specific setup.

> On Jul 7, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Saqib Hussain <saqib1...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Mine is connected to a 40 inch TV with HDMI cable.   The keyboard freezing 
> would last up to 10 minutes  that sort of behaviour is just not acceptable 
> especially when we pay so much for these devices. 
> 
>> On 7 Jul 2016, at 13:03, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> if you are on a mini, with no monitor connected, it is normal
>> behavior. mine does this sometimes as well.
>> 
>>> On 7/7/16, Saqib Hussain <saqib1...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> Hi. After my issues with the keyboard freezing! I’ve had my Mac Mini
>>> replaced and I could of asked for a refund when I went to the Apple store
>>> yesterday but I wanted to give the OS the benefit of the doubt and got a
>>> replacement and It’s been working well since I had set it up again yesterday
>>> evening. I’m learning commands because I’m using programs like the mail
>>> client everyday and Ive been making mental notes of them as well. I don’t
>>> know whether you can install software from the internet without risking
>>> infecting the OS with a virus but I did download RS Games which was very
>>> buggy and Skype and my theory is that may have been the cause of the
>>> keyboard freezing in edit boxes periodically.  I’m not ever going  to
>>> download anything from the internet again. If I want to listen to an audio
>>> file! I will stream it on another device.
>>>> On 6 Jul 2016, at 17:52, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I got an iPhone 5 in October, 2012, and now have an iPhone 6.   I consider
>>>> them to be the most life changing pieces of electronics I have ever
>>>> bought. I wanted to try this Mac Mini,   and am willing to give a Mac
>>>> another attempt in the future.
>>>> 
>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher hallsworth"
>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:18 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I would have gone for an iPod. It’s an iPhone, without the phone. So you
>>>> can spend as little or as much time with it as necessary, without being
>>>> tied to any sort of contract. This was my first ever iOS device, the iPod
>>>> Touch 4th Generation, and about six months later I migrated to the iPhone
>>>> 4. To date, I have an iPod Touch 6th Generation, iPhone 5s and iPad Mini
>>>> 2. I have other Apple products, but these will be kept off the list for
>>>> now. I would highly recommend anyone to start out with an iPod before
>>>> trying an iPhone. Just my £0.02 worth and it worked like a charm for me.
>>>>> On 6 Jul 2016, at 16:00, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apple is the one who imposed the deadline.  I called Apple Accessibility,
>>>>> and the Apple main number, trying to get it extended, no luck.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll bet we all know blind people who get an iPhone, and just don't seem
>>>>> to get it.  They end up getting Searie to do everything for them, because
>>>>> they just never seem to have caught on to using the touch screen.  By
>>>>> then, they have their iPhone, like it or not, and would have to pay a big
>>>>> cancellation fee to return it.  I just didn't want to have all this money
>>>>> invested in something that I very well may, but may not have caught onto
>>>>> eventually.   By no means did I expect to be fluent at it by yesterday,
>>>>> but I think I should have been getting it, a little more than I was by
>>>>> the deadline. I am not opposed to trying it again in the future.  It will
>>>>> have to be some kind of cheaper alternative, though, until I feel
>>>>> confident that I am going to get it.  I wish Apple had given me more
>>>>> time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Granados
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 8:19 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Arnold, you never stood a chance.  You can’t learn an operating system
>>>>>> in 2 weeks, thinking you could was unreasonable.  I wouldn’t even
>>>>>> undertake such a thing with a limited time frame like that ant ai have
>>>>>> 35 years of computer experience.  Also, you went in to it with the wrong
>>>>>> mindset. I remember the first posts you had set up for failure on day 1.
>>>>>> It’s like learning a language, you can’t learn it word by word or just
>>>>>> in dribs and drabs, the only real way to learn is full emersion.  If I
>>>>>> were learning French I’d head to France and plop down in the middle of
>>>>>> the country where i didn’t have a choice.  Same with computing.  When
>>>>>> you decide to learn a new operating system you have to cut your self off
>>>>>> from the old. You have to build up all new muscle memory for keyboard
>>>>>> commands.  I’d say 10 to 1 you kept issuing windows type keyboard
>>>>>> commands on the Mac and introducing problems not for anything you are
>>>>>> doing wrong just because you’re new and have built up years of muscle
>>>>>> memory for commands in Windows.
>>>>>> You also didn’t value learning the Mac.  You mentioned several times
>>>>>> even in your first post that you wouldn’t gain anything.  So in the end
>>>>>> I’m not sure why you bothered.  That’s like walking in to the job
>>>>>> interview, telling your self you’re not going to get the job anyway and
>>>>>> then living up to your expectations.:)  If you ever try this again with
>>>>>> any platform don’t limit yourself to an unreasonable amount of time.
>>>>>> Maybe try an operating system like a Linux variant or something with is
>>>>>> totally free out of the box, won’t cause any financial pressure and you
>>>>>> can dedicate to it with out other    distractions like worrying about
>>>>>> the costs. No matter what, good job or giving it a crack.  It’s good to
>>>>>> push the boundaries and I’m glad you gave it a shot.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> P.S. Stay away from Costco.  They totally screwed that migration from
>>>>>> Amex.  I canceled my membership because of the sloppy rollout.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2016, at 4:50 AM, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I wand to thank everyone for the help I have received over the past two
>>>>>>> weeks, concerning my Mac Mini.  However, I ended up taking it back
>>>>>>> after all yesterday, which was my last day to return it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To attempt to make a long message not quite so long, I guess I just
>>>>>>> wasn't getting it as much as I think I should have been.  Every time I
>>>>>>> would turn it on, it seemed that I still was having to look up how to
>>>>>>> do things that I thought I had already learned, and it definitely was
>>>>>>> getting more frustrating than fun, being that I could very easily do
>>>>>>> those things in Windows, or on my iPhone.  And in the end, what was
>>>>>>> going to be the real benefit to me?  ITunes allegedly easier to use,
>>>>>>> and being able to install the OS myself.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Being that yesterday was going to be my last day, I started out
>>>>>>> intending to put in a lot of extra time with it, before the time for my
>>>>>>> paratransit trip to return it arrived, which I still thought I was
>>>>>>> going to cancel.  So, I decided to log into my bank web site, which I
>>>>>>> had not attempted yet.  I successfully passed the first step in the
>>>>>>> two-step verification, but then, no matter what I tried, I couldn't get
>>>>>>> it to read the security question it wanted answered.  No problem in
>>>>>>> Windows, or my iPhone, no go on this Mac mini.  I could tell  the
>>>>>>> location for the answer field, I could find what should have been the
>>>>>>> question field, it just wouldn't read anything.  I typed in the answer
>>>>>>> to one of my security questions, which, of course, was the wrong answer
>>>>>>> for the question it was asking.  I am sure the inability to get it to
>>>>>>> read the security question was mine, not the Mac Mini's .  So, I closed
>>>>>>> Safari, then decided to turn on keyboard help, just to try differing
>>>>>>> combinations of keys I had never tried before to see what it would say.
>>>>>>> I was trying the function keys, and hit a key at the very right end of
>>>>>>> them, and it just shut off.  Nothing I did would get VoiceOver talking
>>>>>>> again.  I tried the three-finger triple tap on the track pad,then the
>>>>>>> three-finger double tap which is what it is on my iPhone,  turned the
>>>>>>> track pad commander off and on, turned the whole computer off and back
>>>>>>> on, nothing.  And this was my last day.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I wish I had had 30 days.  If I had had, I still don't think it would
>>>>>>> have gone back.  But I didn't want to be one of those people who never
>>>>>>> quite got it, but it was too late to take it back, and I had over 900
>>>>>>> dollars invested in the thing.  Even though it would have put me lower
>>>>>>> in my checking account than I wanted to be, I should have kept the
>>>>>>> Windows      10 Lenovo I bought from Costco, and the Mac Mini, too,
>>>>>>> knowing one of them was going back.  I bought the Lenovo first, after
>>>>>>> having talked myself out of buying a Mac, again.  Sometime before
>>>>>>> Microsoft stops supporting Vista next spring, there will be another
>>>>>>> good deal come through Costco.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I always had wanted to try a Mac, I am glad I did.  But it ended up
>>>>>>> being so much tedium and frustration to me, as compared to what I
>>>>>>> already know, with not all that much seeming benefit in the end. I
>>>>>>> fully expected not to know what I was doing for a while, but I thought
>>>>>>> it would have begun to get easier by yesterday, which, I guess, it
>>>>>>> wasn't, even with the two books I have.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Arnold Schmidt
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