I am encouraged to know that our Mac user population in the BVI  
community is steadily growing, and the sighted colleagues I've talked  
to here in Alaska are excited and the first thing I hear from them is,  
"I have a parent or friend who is blind and this would be great for  
him and her and perhaps I could help him/her with the computer."  And  
our rehab counselors are finally "getting it!"  Richie Gardenhire,  
Anchorage, Alaska.

On Dec 22, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Tyler Littlefield wrote:

Sure, but just because it talks out of the box doesn't mean much.  
Don't get me wrong, I love my VO, but there still are things that it  
needs help with.
On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> ALthough I agree there needs to be no mission in converting folks,,  
> I do believe it makes sense to let any and all know.  Whether you  
> like the iPhone or not is in my mind irrelevant.  What is relevant  
> is the fact that finally now a blind or visually impaired person can  
> now go into a store and purchase an accessible product, whether that  
> be a computer, iPhone, or iPod, and not have to purchase additional  
> and expensive software makes a tremendous difference.
> I think there is more to be gained by proving the Mac or other  
> offerings by Apple are viable solutions is what will sell the  
> product to a blind or visually impaired user honestly.
>
> On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>
>> The iphone seems nice enough, but lets not go on a converting  
>> rampage. I'm personally getting something else, because I don't  
>> like the iphone, even if we had service for it where I'm at.
>> On Dec 22, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Jess wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Well, I'm getting the IPhone 3 GS today. But more than that,  
>>> folks, we need to keep the trend of switching to the Mac and  
>>> IPhone going. The more people we have switching, the more inclined  
>>> Apple will be to continue support and development for Voice OVer.
>>> For the first time, I can walk into a store, pick up a phone, and  
>>> have it talk out of the box. I don't have to have this special  
>>> software that makes my phone accessible, and explain to people,  
>>> oh, this is special software that reads aloud what you see on the  
>>> screen. When I mention to people that I am going to get the  
>>> IPhone, I feel a great deal of satisfaction that people don't look  
>>> at me and go, well Jess, youre blind, so how the hell will you be  
>>> able to use it? It's awesome that I can be treated as an equal. We  
>>> half! to keep this trend up! Otherwise, what we have waited for,  
>>> hoped for, and longed for, access to something right out of the  
>>> box, will soon be gone forever! And by the way, every time I try  
>>> to convince someone that accessibility is a right and we have the  
>>> right to have 100 percent access to everything we buy, that  
>>> argument that we are to small of a market is always what I get.  
>>> I'm sorry, but Apple is proving that argument to be void, and I  
>>> have never agreed with it and never will. Any thoughts on this post?
>>>
>>>
>>> Jes
>>>
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