Tyler,

I do not understand your comment below.  What does it talking out of the box 
have to do with whether you need help.  I do not understand the connection.  
Can you elaborate?

On Dec 22, 2009, at 2:04 PM, Tyler Littlefield wrote:

> Sure, but just because it talks out of the box doesn't mean much. Don't get 
> me wrong, I love my VO, but there still are things that it needs help with.
> On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> ALthough I agree there needs to be no mission in converting folks,, I do 
>> believe it makes sense to let any and all know.  Whether you like the iPhone 
>> or not is in my mind irrelevant.  What is relevant is the fact that finally 
>> now a blind or visually impaired person can now go into a store and purchase 
>> an accessible product, whether that be a computer, iPhone, or iPod, and not 
>> have to purchase additional and expensive software makes a tremendous 
>> difference.
>> I think there is more to be gained by proving the Mac or other offerings by 
>> Apple are viable solutions is what will sell the product to a blind or 
>> visually impaired user honestly.
>> 
>> On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> 
>>> The iphone seems nice enough, but lets not go on a converting rampage. I'm 
>>> personally getting something else, because I don't like the iphone, even if 
>>> we had service for it where I'm at.
>>> On Dec 22, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Jess wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> 
>>>> Well, I'm getting the IPhone 3 GS today. But more than that, folks, we 
>>>> need to keep the trend of switching to the Mac and IPhone going. The more 
>>>> people we have switching, the more inclined Apple will be to continue 
>>>> support and development for Voice OVer.
>>>> For the first time, I can walk into a store, pick up a phone, and have it 
>>>> talk out of the box. I don't have to have this special software that makes 
>>>> my phone accessible, and explain to people, oh, this is special software 
>>>> that reads aloud what you see on the screen. When I mention to people that 
>>>> I am going to get the IPhone, I feel a great deal of satisfaction that 
>>>> people don't look at me and go, well Jess, youre blind, so how the hell 
>>>> will you be able to use it? It's awesome that I can be treated as an 
>>>> equal. We half! to keep this trend up! Otherwise, what we have waited for, 
>>>> hoped for, and longed for, access to something right out of the box, will 
>>>> soon be gone forever! And by the way, every time I try to convince someone 
>>>> that accessibility is a right and we have the right to have 100 percent 
>>>> access to everything we buy, that argument that we are to small of a 
>>>> market is always what I get. I'm sorry, but Apple is proving that argument 
>>>> to be void, and I have never agreed with it and never will. Any thoughts 
>>>> on this post?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jes
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