Hi CB,  Have you seen the braille connect lines or the brailleno?  We're 
talking about 20-30 sell displays that conveniently fit in a pocket, connect 
via bluetooth, and offer input as well as display fuctions.  Some one was 
talking about carying an IPhone and a stream.  This would be a little 
different, but not much.  It's really really functional and nice.

Thanks for all this other info.  My last info came from candleshore blog which 
stated that you'd better carry around 2 or 3 spare batteries if you wanted to 
make it through the day as a mobile professional.  Considdering there's what a 
550 mhz processer in there or something I wasn't really all that surpriced.  
But the touch pro two offers about 6 days of non talk battery life, 12 or 13 
hours talk time and has a 550 mhz processer which blew me right away.

Best,

erik burggraaf
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On 2009-12-23, at 11:52 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Wouldn't braille support kind of limit the utility of a pcket-sized portable 
> device? While text to speech may not be as ideal, it's probably a lot easier 
> to haul around.
> 
> I haven't tried it but there is Voice of DAISY
> http://www.cypac.co.jp/vodi/index.html
> 
> There is a GPS built in so the next step is a good accessible mapping 
> application. Search on past threads about Navigon and a few others. The 
> compass is also quite nice and accessible.
> 
> One trick is to turn the screen backlight off. Save a bunch of power. Battery 
> life otherwise depends on how you use it. With light use 3 days isn't that 
> unusual. Heavy use will put it in the charger daily, especially GPS, wifi or 
> GSM use.
> 
> CB
> 
> erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>> Do we have braille support on the IPhone then?
>> 
>> How about a daisy book reader?
>> 
>> Is there a good OCR package yet?
>> 
>> What are people using for gps on it these days?  Anyone tried paring a hulux 
>> m1000 or an IBlue 737 with the thing?
>> 
>> Oh, and hows the battery life?  I can get a good 3 days out of my I-paq.  If 
>> the IPhone is ready in all these particulars, I'll buy one in April, but 
>> last I heard, the product was still new, and although it works right enough, 
>> it doesn't stack up yet.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> erik burggraaf
>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2009-12-22, at 4:59 PM, Cody wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> I say quit the bitchin and buy a damn iPhone :p. best damn phone on the 
>>> market and also for the price. can't think of anything the iPhone can't do 
>>> that any other phone can do and more. now time to put some pants on after a 
>>> nice hot shower and get something cold to drnk before heading out.
>>> 
>>> Cody
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <ty...@tysdomain.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: We better keep this going!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sure, but just because it talks out of the box doesn't mean much. Don't get 
>>> me wrong, I love my VO, but there still are things that it needs help with.
>>> On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
>>>     
>>>> ALthough I agree there needs to be no mission in converting folks,, I do 
>>>> believe it makes sense to let any and all know.  Whether you like the 
>>>> iPhone or not is in my mind irrelevant.  What is relevant is the fact that 
>>>> finally now a blind or visually impaired person can now go into a store 
>>>> and purchase an accessible product, whether that be a computer, iPhone, or 
>>>> iPod, and not have to purchase additional and expensive software makes a 
>>>> tremendous difference.
>>>> I think there is more to be gained by proving the Mac or other offerings 
>>>> by Apple are viable solutions is what will sell the product to a blind or 
>>>> visually impaired user honestly.
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> The iphone seems nice enough, but lets not go on a converting rampage. 
>>>>> I'm personally getting something else, because I don't like the iphone, 
>>>>> even if we had service for it where I'm at.
>>>>> On Dec 22, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Jess wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>         
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, I'm getting the IPhone 3 GS today. But more than that, folks, we 
>>>>>> need to keep the trend of switching to the Mac and IPhone going. The 
>>>>>> more people we have switching, the more inclined Apple will be to 
>>>>>> continue support and development for Voice OVer.
>>>>>> For the first time, I can walk into a store, pick up a phone, and have 
>>>>>> it talk out of the box. I don't have to have this special software that 
>>>>>> makes my phone accessible, and explain to people, oh, this is special 
>>>>>> software that reads aloud what you see on the screen. When I mention to 
>>>>>> people that I am going to get the IPhone, I feel a great deal of 
>>>>>> satisfaction that people don't look at me and go, well Jess, youre 
>>>>>> blind, so how the hell will you be able to use it? It's awesome that I 
>>>>>> can be treated as an equal. We half! to keep this trend up! Otherwise, 
>>>>>> what we have waited for, hoped for, and longed for, access to something 
>>>>>> right out of the box, will soon be gone forever! And by the way, every 
>>>>>> time I try to convince someone that accessibility is a right and we have 
>>>>>> the right to have 100 percent access to everything we buy, that argument 
>>>>>> that we are to small of a market is always what I get. I'm sorry, but 
>>>>>> Apple is proving that argument to be void, and I have never agreed with 
>>>>>> it and never will. Any thoughts on this post?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jes
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