Hi Dave, Try using control-option lock. Hold down the VO keys and press the semi-colon. This locks down the VO keys. Now press m a number of times to see if it toggles between the two menu sets. If it does, then it's likely something to do with either your control or option key not being pressed, or losing its press action for some reason. If you still don't get the Extras menu when the control-option lock is on, then we have more investigating to do. You turn off the control-option lock by pressing the semi-colon while the lock is enabled.
Later... Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 24, 2020, at 17:07, Dave Carlson <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: IF the Extras menu does show, then it’s VO+right arrow or left arrow or space, depending on which menu I want open. The problem is poorly stated. I should not have said disappearing Extras Menu, I should have said “non-appearing” Extras Menu. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/30090984-21A8-4F27-AF78-C7BB78CC91FC%40sbcglobal.net <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/30090984-21A8-4F27-AF78-C7BB78CC91FC%40sbcglobal.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5B591A02-1D37-44B3-806D-89A1DA367085%40me.com.