Hi, If you're getting "Finder Busy" messages, then something is using up resources, or there's a memory glitch, or some other inconsistency. Have you restarted your Mac lately? It's possible that there's a conflict somewhere that's causing the problem. I suggest that you go back to basics for a bit. That is, disconnect any and all devices such as network drives. Restart the Mac, then see if any of the problems rear their ugly heads. If not, then we're narrowing things down. connect one device, do some testing and if all is good, then move on to connecting one of the other devices and so on. If the problem returns when you connect a specific device, it could be something with that device, or the combination of devices. I would disconnect all the other devices and only connect the offending device then. If the problem persists, then we, at least, have learned what is causing the "Finder Busy" message, which may be contributing to the other issues. I really don't see any of the apps you have running being a factor in the Extras menu saga.
Later... Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 24, 2020, at 18:17, Dave Carlson <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: More testing results… I shut down all my apps except finder. When I get stuck with the non-appearing Extras Menu I then launch the VO Utility app and then close it with Cmd+Q Then the VO+m works exactly as it should … except for the following events: 1. VO+m twice to the Extras menu which comes up, but I also hear “finder busy” If I wait, then another VO+m drops to the apple menu like a good computer should. And I can go back/forth just fine. 2. VO+M twice to the extras menu, which comes up No “finder busy” message, no “finder Ready” message VO+m and I’m dropped into the content of the finder. Another VO+M puts me bak to a non-appearing Extras menu — I’m stuck again. Invoking the VO utilities app and shutting off again will restore correct operation. I’m beginning to suspect that the “finder Busy “ is the clue. If my finder is struggling with a lot of stuff in the background, could that be preventing the Extras (and sometimes the Apple) menu from appearing? I do have three network drives and my backup drive on my desktop, along with several alias items. Is there just too much junk? Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7C1F800A-39D5-4B1F-B1D4-9812783CADD4%40sbcglobal.net <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7C1F800A-39D5-4B1F-B1D4-9812783CADD4%40sbcglobal.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D8C1814F-CF8B-4335-B533-029E6B184743%40me.com.