It is unfortunate that they will lose their jobs. However, it's probably better that they are not working for a greety company. One time I messed up my Jaws authorization floppy. I had to pay $20 for a replacement floppy. Yes, $20 for a floppy disk. This was after my parents paid about $1000 out of pocket for the software. I am glad that since I use Mac OS for my home computers, I don't have to worry about authorization keys. Therefore, it's no big deal if Freedom Science Fiction goes out of business. No, that wasn't a typo.
On Jun 5, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > I feel sorry for the people who will loose their jobs. > On Jun 5, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> I certainly agree. Yay, yay, no more overpriced, unfair JAWS. >> Courtney >> >> On 05/06/2010, at 1:19 in the Afternoon, Olivia Norman wrote: >> >>> YAY! YAY! YAY! Goodbye Jaws! :) :) :) :) >>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>> >>> On Jun 5, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> >>>> Off topic, but I feel everyone will be interested especially those people >>>> who run Fusion on their Macs. >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com> >>>>> Date: June 5, 2010 9:36:33 AM GMT+01:00 >>>>> To: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kawal_gucuko...@sent.com> >>>>> Subject: Fw: [bcab] End of Freedom? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin r. Howard" <co...@pobox.com> >>>>> To: <b...@freelists.org>; <access...@freelists.org>; >>>>> <av...@googlegroups.com>; <ntexpr...@googlegroups.com>; >>>>> <jaws...@freelists.org> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:30 AM >>>>> Subject: [bcab] End of Freedom? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am posting the main text from a thread just seen on the Blind Audio >>>>>> List >>>>>> which I am surprised not to have seen on the BCAB or AccessUK groups. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ought we to give much credence to this? >>>>>> >>>>>> I, for one, would welcome any comments from Sight and Sound. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Otto Zamora" <donttreado...@bellsouth.net> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:44:14 -0400 >>>>>> >>>>>> Morning, >>>>>> >>>>>> In an advocate meeting yesterday, the subject came up reference Freedom >>>>>> Scientific, the company that among other things sports JFw. >>>>>> Because the company is in the state of Florida, it came up on a flag by >>>>>> an >>>>>> analyst. >>>>>> Seems this company is having bad money troubles, not surprising given the >>>>>> economy, but talk is that they are now looking to sell off some of their >>>>>> division, mainly their JFW area. >>>>>> I am not sure who if anyone will buy this division, considering that >>>>>> there >>>>>> is an entity now selling a fully integrated package for only $700. >>>>>> Besides a comprehensive screen reader, if the user chooses to get the >>>>>> package, there is a browser, along with a customed and fully accessible >>>>>> web >>>>>> sites, word processing, and E mail. >>>>>> all of this can apparently be accessed either on line, or as individual >>>>>> program. >>>>>> ad to that, the entertainment mogill, and you have a powerful tool indeed >>>>>> for the kind of money they are asking for. >>>>>> Another side of the equation is the apple company, now selling computers >>>>>> already with speech on board right out of the box and off the shelf. >>>>>> Put these two aspects together, and you have a deadly combo that might >>>>>> very >>>>>> well result in a abrupt end to the JFW program. >>>>>> Considering the way that technology is growing, older versions of JFW, >>>>>> will >>>>>> only work for a short while until the programs controlling the OS, >>>>>> begins to >>>>>> outgrow the application. >>>>>> In seeing this package, one of the things which was pointed out to me, >>>>>> was >>>>>> the learning curve, which for the new package being sold by Mr.. Mike >>>>>> Calvo, >>>>>> is very short. >>>>>> The user has the option to learn as little or as much as they want >>>>>> without >>>>>> real loss. From: "Alison Trelfa" <codamu...@uwclub.net> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:36:47 +0100 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, Otto, >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder whether many jaws users would move to another speech program as >>>>>> yet >>>>>> as many of the packages that are not standard probably wouldn't be >>>>>> supported >>>>>> by the out of the box speech. I run Sonar and Sibelius 5.25, both of >>>>>> which >>>>>> are using scripts that have been written by folk who specialise not only >>>>>> in >>>>>> Jaws, but only in the two programs. I suppose those people who only need >>>>>> computers for basic commands may well get away with speech such as you >>>>>> describe, but I don't think that Jaws would just be dismissed out of hand >>>>>> because Freedom is going. I think Jaws has changed hands once before if >>>>>> I'm >>>>>> not mistaken? Correct me if I'm wrong there. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would be very sorry to see Jaws go under, but I'm not worried yet. >>>>>> There >>>>>> is a huge following for Jaws and I believe that someone would take it >>>>>> over. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Otto Zamora" <donttreado...@bellsouth.net> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:49:36 -0400 >>>>>> >>>>>> hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> You are correct, I am just stating that from what we were told, they are >>>>>> having a hard time finding someone who will take on the >>>>>> project,especially >>>>>> since as you point out, most people are not using anything that is high >>>>>> end, and from what we also have heard, people are tired of having to pay >>>>>> $1500 and change, when there now is a program which will do speech and >>>>>> more >>>>>> for only $700. >>>>>> Given the economy, for many people, the sedition may be financial. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Geoff Long <ge...@tisab.demon.co.uk> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:20:04 +0100 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Alison, I wonder how many JAWS users have to >>>>>> pay for their own equipment. I use window-eyes, >>>>>> which is considerably less expensive, and as I >>>>>> had to pay for my training and kit from my own >>>>>> pocket, it makes a big difference. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Dr Norman Waddington" <normanwaddington...@btinternet.com> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:36:22 +0100 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Geoff, >>>>>> >>>>>> I need no introduction to you on this list. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am a Jaws user and have paid all the way through out of my own pocket >>>>>> from >>>>>> version 3.5 methinks if I remember correctly. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:37:37 +0200 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello! >>>>>> Also we have nvda as a very good and free alternative. >>>>>> And Hal or supernova which costs less money than jaws. >>>>>> From: "Mike Stewart" <stewar...@verizon.net> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:58:45 -0600 >>>>>> >>>>>> The entry price is steep, but upgrades only run about $100-$140 or so... >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Alison Trelfa" <codamu...@uwclub.net> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 21:31:33 +0100 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, Geoff, >>>>>> >>>>>> It is expensive to get jaws I agree with that. The problem I have is that >>>>>> there are no other programs that support the music side as far as I >>>>>> know. If >>>>>> all programs worked as well as microsoft office or outlook express then I >>>>>> think Jaws would really be struggling. 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