Hi, Just to add, I have google as my homepage as well. if your at the top of the page you can just press tab once to bring you to the search edit field. You can also press VO command J once and get the same result. No rotor needed. :) On Jun 22, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
> Alfredo, > I only need a couple of key strokes to get to the search box in google. > First, you should know that my quick nav is on. So when safari loads the > page, I first use my up and right arrows to select forms in the web rotor. > Then I hit the down arrow. The first place I land is the search box. I Then > can type what I want and hit enter or go down arrow again to the search or > I'm feeling lucky buttons. > Having been a jaws user for a number of years, I do understand the > convenience of simply hitting the f key and landing on your form field, but > thing about this. With quick nav, you may navigate the web one-handed as any > sighted person can do with a mouse. I find that highly liberating as I feel > it requires less effort on my part. > > Friendly, > Chris > > On Jun 22, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Alfredo wrote: > >> The rotor utility is not efficient enough for me, I hate to make a >> comparison but with jaws I get to a text edit field, like the google >> webpage one, automatically or by pressing the f key. With voice over >> in safari, when I go to the google webpage I have to use the VO keys >> along with the right arrow key several times, about 4 or 5, to get to >> the text edit field. The safari way requires more key strokes, if I >> could remove key strokes then better. I could use the web item rotor >> and the of to forms, and then the text edit field but I think this >> requires the same number of keystrokes. Maybe as I get used to the >> mac I will get better and be able to find a way o do this. I will >> try grouping mode to see if this helps. Should the voice over cursor >> be focus on the google search field when i load the google web page? >> It does on other pages, like the gmail web page. Maybe if I turn off >> automatic speaking of webpages when they load. Thank for clarifying >> the thing about the multiple tabs, I search online, on google, and >> only found one solution for this, and i think it was because of safari >> 5 extensions, which I currently do not have. With everyone saying >> that it caused them trouble I will stay away from it for another month >> or so. Thanks again for the response. >> alfredo >> >> Chris Moore wrote: >>> Is the form item in the rota not efficient enough for you? (you can create >>> a short cut to toggle between DOM and group mode) >>> as for text elements , have you tried surfing in grouping mode?when you >>> mention tabs, do you mean they are automatically open with the web pages >>> loaded of your choice? Not that I am aware of maybe as Safari 5 has been >>> opened up someone might develop an add on. for now you will have to press >>> command + T for a new tab. and then use control + tab to cycle through them. >>> On 22 Jun 2010, at 18:08, Alfredo wrote: >>> >>>> I am going through the online tutorial with voice over and am hitting >>>> some bumps in the way. >>>> 1. Can you navigate the web by form field like in jaws? In jaws you >>>> just clicked the âfâ key and you would land on a form field, such as >>>> an edit box, radio button, or button. >>>> 2. Is there a way to navigate text element by text element, sometimes >>>> it would be useful just to get to the text section of a webpage, >>>> especially ones that contain many links. Is there a hot key to >>>> navigate text element by text element on the web? >>>> 3. I was reading the select multiple items section and tried it on >>>> the Voice over utilities, VO + F8, and went into his web section, and >>>> went to the web rotor popup menu. I wanted to select multiple items >>>> or deselect multiple items but I could not. Plus VO does not tell you >>>> if the checkbox on the popup menu is on or off, even when I pressed VO >>>> + f8. Can anyone shine a light on this? I can live with having to >>>> close the menu for every selected Item I want but it would be more >>>> convenient to just select all items I want then close the popup >>>> menu. >>>> 4. Is there a way to set up multiple tabs upon starting safari? I >>>> had multiple tabs for my internet explorer on windows since this way I >>>> have quick access to my bank account webpage, phone bill web page, >>>> Google search, Gmail, NFL website, book share, and others. Does >>>> anyone know how to do this? >>>> 6. Is there a way to activate a link from within the web item rotor? >>>> Like for example, instead of just going to the link selected from the >>>> web item rotor can I activate that link so that the web page will load >>>> up auto magically? This would save me on more steps in selecting the >>>> link. If there is no way to do this, then I will send an email to >>>> apple suggesting that they add this feature. The can do like, if you >>>> press the control key while selecting a link on the web item rotor you >>>> will activate the like not only go to it. >>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated; the Mac experience is going >>>> good so far >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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