Yeah that's what I do. I thought htere was a faster way. ah well.

S
On Jun 23, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Chris Moore wrote:

> Presuming you already have some tabs open, press VO + Up to stop interacting 
> with HTML, then move left and right to the tab you desire and then VO + space 
> to perform a mouse click then VO + Down to interact with HTML 
> 
> I guess you can now see why some users prefer to use windows instead of tabs, 
> not sure if there is a key stroke like VO+F2  to enable users to quickly 
> navigate tabs in their preferred order instead of using control + TAB which 
> lets you cycle through in a linear format.
> 
> Chris 
> On 24 Jun 2010, at 07:07, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Now how do I move to a new tab? I'm still kind of stumpped on that one.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> 
>> S
>> On Jun 23, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> Linda, 
>>> 
>>> I totally forgot about Command +  (accent) `  yes this is a very good way 
>>> to cycle through open windows, quicker then VO+F2, although pressing F2 
>>> twice reads out the title of the current window and the title of the other 
>>> open windows when moving the cursor keys up and down.  That is what I love 
>>> about the Mac, there are so many ways to do the same task which enables you 
>>> to find a way that suits you instead of being forced to do it one way only.
>>> 
>>> Chris 
>>> On 24 Jun 2010, at 00:27, Linda Adams wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Chris,
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, your explanation was very good.  BTW, I've been using
>>>> command-accent to cycle through windows.  Since I've gotten used to
>>>> that, I guess I'll stick with it.
>>>> 
>>>> Linda
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:40 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New window versus new tab
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ok I can appreciate why this might be confusing.  For myself when I was
>>>> sighted a few months ago I always preferred tabs as it visually keeps
>>>> the desktop tidy and keeps all your safari windows in one place.  Plus
>>>> if I was on several different websites such as Amazon or Play i could
>>>> quickly compare prices between the two sites instead of having to keep
>>>> moving open windows around.
>>>> 
>>>> As a blind user now I guess it just comes down to what you are used to
>>>> and comfortable with  With tabs I can quickly cycle through them with
>>>> Control + TAB.  But equally so with open windows you can VO+F2 and then
>>>> select the window from the list.
>>>> 
>>>> So there is no right or wrong way, I would just say for a sighted person
>>>> I think most people would prefer tabs.
>>>> 
>>>> Does this answer your question?
>>>> 
>>>> Chris 
>>>> On 23 Jun 2010, at 23:24, Linda Adams wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Chris and others,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I need a simple basic explanation of the difference (in Safari) 
>>>>> between opening a new window with command N versus opening a new tab 
>>>>> with command T. Are they used differently in some way?
>>>>> 
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Linda
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:17 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Have a question on selecting multiple item and navigating
>>>> 
>>>>> by form field and text
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the voice utility VO+F8 you can activate sounds and this will give 
>>>>> you an indication when a web page has loaded.  This will save you from
>>>> 
>>>>> having to use the auto speak tor page summary read out when a web page
>>>> 
>>>>> is loaded.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Quick Nav is toggled on and off by pressing left and right together.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To open a new tab, press command + T
>>>>> To cycle through the open tabs select  Control + Tab
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you want to send apple any feedback go to www.apple.com/feedback 
>>>>> and you can also write to accessibil...@apple.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>> On 23 Jun 2010, at 07:58, Alfredo wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for verifying my suspicion that having the page read
>>>>>> automatically made me not land on an edit field automatically.  This 
>>>>>> will help me tremendously as I am an avid internet user and do not 
>>>>>> need to know if a page is loaded or not.  Although, it would be nice 
>>>>>> to have an audio feedback when the page loads, or the option to set
>>>> on
>>>>> 
>>>>>> instead of having the page be read automatically upon opening. 
>>>>>> Jumping
>>>>> 
>>>>>> by element would be a great feature, a time saver, and I believe it 
>>>>>> is
>>>>> 
>>>>>> needed, I will write about about this.  I did not know that you could
>>>>>> browse the web with such ease using quick nave, you activate quick 
>>>>>> nave by pressing the up arrow key in conjunction with the down arrow 
>>>>>> key right?  Thanks for the command VO + J, to jump to the text edit 
>>>>>> field, I did not this existed as the starting guide has not told me
>>>> or
>>>>> 
>>>>>> did not tell me, or explained this.  Even greater thanks for the
>>>>>> suggestion to click command + L, then VO + right arrow, twice, to get
>>>> 
>>>>>> to do a Google search.  Do you know if this will open a new tab, or 
>>>>>> will it just replace the webpage I am on?  Is the control
>>>>>> + option +T command used in voice over or in jaws?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> alfredo
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