>From any page in Safari, all you have to do to search in Google is command L, 
>then VO right arrow twice and type your  terms into the search box and press 
>enter.  Very simple.
On Jun 22, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:

> Alfredo,
> I only need a couple of key strokes to get to the search box in google.
> First, you should know that my quick nav is on. So when safari loads the 
> page, I first use my up and right arrows to select forms in the web rotor. 
> Then I hit the down arrow. The first place I land is the search box. I Then 
> can type what I want and hit enter or go down arrow again to the search or 
> I'm feeling lucky buttons.
> Having been a jaws user for a number of years, I do understand the 
> convenience of simply hitting the f key and landing on your form field, but 
> thing about this. With quick nav, you may navigate the web one-handed as any 
> sighted person can do with a mouse. I find that highly liberating as I feel 
> it requires less effort on my part.
> 
> Friendly,
> Chris
> 
> On Jun 22, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Alfredo wrote:
> 
>> The rotor utility is not efficient enough for me, I hate to make a
>> comparison but with jaws I get to a text edit field, like the google
>> webpage one, automatically or by pressing the f key.  With voice over
>> in safari, when I go to the google webpage I have to use the VO keys
>> along with the right arrow key several times, about 4 or 5, to get to
>> the text edit field.  The safari way requires more key strokes, if I
>> could remove key strokes then better.  I could use the web item rotor
>> and the of to forms, and then the text edit field but I think this
>> requires the same number of keystrokes.  Maybe as I get used to the
>> mac I will get better and be able to find a way o do this.  I will
>> try grouping mode to see if this helps.  Should the voice over cursor
>> be focus on the google search field when i load the google web page?
>> It does on other pages, like the gmail web page.  Maybe if I turn off
>> automatic speaking of webpages when they load.  Thank for clarifying
>> the thing about the multiple tabs, I search online, on google, and
>> only found one solution for this, and i think it was because of safari
>> 5 extensions, which I currently do not have.  With everyone saying
>> that it caused them trouble I will stay away from it for another month
>> or so.  Thanks again for the response.
>> alfredo
>> 
>> Chris Moore wrote:
>>> Is the form item in the rota not efficient enough for you? (you can create 
>>> a short cut to toggle between DOM and group mode)
>>> as for text elements , have you tried surfing in grouping mode?when you 
>>> mention tabs, do you mean they are automatically open with the web pages 
>>> loaded of your choice?  Not that I am aware of maybe as Safari 5 has been 
>>> opened up someone might develop an add on.  for now you will have to press 
>>> command + T for a new tab. and then use control + tab to cycle through them.
>>> On 22 Jun 2010, at 18:08, Alfredo wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am going through the online tutorial with voice over and am hitting
>>>> some bumps in the way.
>>>> 1.  Can you navigate the web by form field like in jaws?  In jaws you
>>>> just clicked the “f” key and you would land on a form field, such as
>>>> an edit box, radio button, or button.
>>>> 2.  Is there a way to navigate text element by text element, sometimes
>>>> it would be useful just to get to the text section of a webpage,
>>>> especially ones that contain many links.  Is there a hot key to
>>>> navigate text element by text element on the web?
>>>> 3.  I was reading the select multiple items section and tried it on
>>>> the Voice over utilities, VO + F8, and went into his web section, and
>>>> went to the web rotor popup menu.  I wanted to select multiple items
>>>> or deselect multiple items but I could not.  Plus VO does not tell you
>>>> if the checkbox on the popup menu is on or off, even when I pressed VO
>>>> + f8.  Can anyone shine a light on this?  I can live with having to
>>>> close the menu for every selected Item I want but it would be more
>>>> convenient to just select all items I want then close the popup
>>>> menu.
>>>> 4.  Is there a way to set up multiple tabs upon starting safari?  I
>>>> had multiple tabs for my internet explorer on windows since this way I
>>>> have quick access to my bank account webpage, phone bill web page,
>>>> Google search, Gmail, NFL website, book share, and others.  Does
>>>> anyone know how to do this?
>>>> 6.  Is there a way to activate a link from within the web item rotor?
>>>> Like for example, instead of just going to the link selected from the
>>>> web item rotor can I activate that link so that the web page will load
>>>> up auto magically?  This would save me on more steps in selecting the
>>>> link.  If there is no way to do this, then I will send an email to
>>>> apple suggesting that they add this feature.  The can do like, if you
>>>> press the control key while selecting a link on the web item rotor you
>>>> will activate the like not only go to it.
>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated; the Mac experience is going
>>>> good so far
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