The SSD picks things up a bit, but the drives they are using aren't maximum 
read-write speeds.  You'll be ecstatic with the stability, battery life, and 
boot time, but even with the slower processor the harddrive will still be the 
bottleneck in your system.  I'm not saying it doesn't help.  I love my SSD, but 
it's not quite the performance booster I thought it would be.  Serious 
contribution to stability, and boottime is just amazing, but my apps don't run 
very noticeably faster, particularly max wav to mp3 encoding and lossie file 
conversions which I thought would be insanely fast on an SSD.  Maybe they are a 
second or two faster encoding a 600 mb wav file down to a 50 mb mp3, but the 
bottleneck is still the harddrive.

Best,

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On 2011-08-15, at 3:29 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi Mika,
> 
> I believe there's a program called DVD Remaster that does that, though I 
> haven't tried it.  In the long-term, your definitely right, I suspect 
> there'll come a time not all that far off when having a DVD drive will seem 
> as obsolete as having a floppy drive does now.  But for me anyway, that time 
> hasn't quite arrived yet.  But, as with Chris's mention of the lack of an SD 
> card slot, this is a question of personal preference and usage.
> 
> The processor question is a tricky one.  The processor on the MBA is slower 
> than that on the MBP.  But the solid state drive should make up for a lot of 
> the difference there.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
> 
>> As for a DVD drive, is it easy say to copy a movie over to the hard drive of 
>> say a MacBook Air, so that you don't need a DVD drive on the road?
>> 
>> I just am thinking of this as software increasingly moves to being acquired 
>> through a platform like the Mac app store.
>> 
>> I'm just not sure, for me, why it would be important now a days to have a 
>> built in DVD drive?
>> 
>> Things like the processor, sound, etc. are more important in the uses I 
>> would tend to have.  I'm not sure also on the MBA that just came out how 
>> much of an improvement the processor is, etc.
>> 
>> BTW I now have the 11 inch MBA (the model just before the most recent 
>> release), bought in early 2011.  I still found I mostly used Jaws, mainly 
>> because I'm still more efficient browsing the web under Jaws and for 
>> Qwitter, though I have not really spent the necessary time to learn the Mac 
>> ways of doing things.
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> mika
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:05 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
>> 
>> Hey Chris,
>> 
>> Yeah, the lack of memory card is no big deal for me, I tend to use a USB 
>> drive most of the time.  The one that gets me is the lack of a DVD drive.
>> 
>> That 11-inch Air is *reeeeeally calling my name.  I would have given 
>> anything to have it while I was in Hawaii last week, the MBP was just big 
>> enough that I didn't feel like hauling it on the plane and all.  I can see 
>> why you're sticking with the MBP, though - it's definitely the more powerful 
>> device.  And I totally agree, if they ever combine the Air with the iPad, 
>> I'd be all over it!
>> 
>> I was originally thinking I'd replace the MacBook with the Air, but I can't 
>> see going without a built-in DVD drive, at least not at this point.  So I 
>> don't know.  In addition to the work stuff, I've got some more plane travel 
>> coming up over the next few months, and it'd be nice to be able to take the 
>> Air.  I'd definitely use it, I know that, but it's a luxury, not a 
>> necessity.  Buuuut ... lol
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> Donna,
>>> 
>>> One other thing to bare in mind if you are going for the 11inch model, is 
>>> that it does not have a memory card reader.  This is done via a USB dongle 
>>> instead.  Not sure if this is important to you.
>>> 
>>> I must admit, the 11inch model is very alluring.
>>> 
>>> I think I will stick with my Macbook Pro and iMac for now.  If Apple are 
>>> heading in the direction of merging both their operating systems, then I 
>>> would expect to see a merged Macbook Air and iPad.  Now that's the baby I 
>>> want.  A keyboard with a touch screen all in one.
>>> 
>>> Chris 
>>> On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:47, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Mika,
>>>> 
>>>> The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages.  It has a bigger hard 
>>>> drive, faster processor, can be upgraded with more memory, has built-in 
>>>> ethernet, DVD drive, and SD card slot.  As Ricardo pointed out, it also 
>>>> has better sound.  With the Air, you can connect to a DVD drive or ether 
>>>> net via usb, but they're not built-in, so that's extra hardware you need 
>>>> to haul around.  The Air is a great portable device, but the MacBook is a 
>>>> more powerful computer, with more features built-in.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as 
>>>>> opposed to the MBA (MacBook Air)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed of 
>>>>> the machine, etc?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mika
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with
>>>>> the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made
>>>>> the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that
>>>>> could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the
>>>>> session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in
>>>>> the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the
>>>>> backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network cable
>>>>> vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> CB
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to 
>>>>>> haul around.  But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping my 
>>>>>> MBP to and from work.  Every class I teach is in a different building, 
>>>>>> and all those buildings are different from the building where my office 
>>>>>> is.  So I'll be carrying it around most of the day, along with a braille 
>>>>>> display.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my MacBook.  
>>>>>> So I'll either be trying something like what you describe, or just 
>>>>>> getting the low-end model and using it for times when I want a lot of 
>>>>>> portability.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it 
>>>>>>> wasn't that big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those computer 
>>>>>>> bags with a shoulder strap but it started bothering my shoulder. I 
>>>>>>> finally picked up one for cheap from Megamacs and have really liked it. 
>>>>>>> Very comfortable and more pockets to lose things in :) Might be worth 
>>>>>>> the $20 to find out. It's been several years now but the one I got is 
>>>>>>> still available:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameview&id=3566552
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Their cart UI doesn't move focus to the form input on each step so you 
>>>>>>> have to slog around to find where the form is, but it does work. I 
>>>>>>> guess it's no worse than many web shopping carts.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 8/14/11 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the 
>>>>>>>> next several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering 
>>>>>>>> shelling out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm looking at one of 
>>>>>>>> the new ones, with all the specs maxed out.  My MBP is two years old, 
>>>>>>>> running a 2.53GHZ processor with 4G of ram.  I'm wondering if there's 
>>>>>>>> anyone on list who can give me an accurate comparison of the user 
>>>>>>>> experience on these two models.  A couple of the things I'm wondering 
>>>>>>>> about are:
>>>>>>>> 1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster 
>>>>>>>> processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will 
>>>>>>>> compensate, at least to some extent.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how 
>>>>>>>> the two compare.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If there are any other differences that people have experienced, 
>>>>>>>> either good or bad, I'd love to hear.
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I 
>>>>>>>> can live with.
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