> I have a student who's trying to use Safari on the Blackboard online learning 
> system. In the "Discussion Board" section, we are unable to read plain text 
> in a thread because the text is framed. I'm not sure if it's possible to 
> remove the frame or somehow navigate the frame.
> 
> Please let me know if this is possible.
> 
> Les
> Sent from my iPhone, please forgive typographical errors!
> 
> On Jul 29, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Blaise, lots of useful links here where you can get loads of material for 
>> using the Mac.  I'd encourage you to get whatever you feel is appropriate, 
>> see below.
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Esther <mori...@mac-access.net>
>>> Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls!
>>> Date: July 29, 2012 2:27:27 PM EDT
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>> Hello Gigi and Others,
>>> 
>>> There is a VoiceOver downloads page that gives a link to the Lighthouse for 
>>> the Blind in San Francisco, but so far it has not been updated for Mountain 
>>> Lion.  So the links for downloading the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide in 
>>> a web browser, and also to the electronic braille version in .brf format, 
>>> still point to Lion.  As far as I can tell, versions for Mountain Lion have 
>>> yet been prepared on these sites.  At some point this page should be 
>>> updated, but right now it points to Lion versions:
>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html
>>> 
>>> It might help your friend to review some of the Vision Australia podcasts 
>>> on working with VoiceOver.   Also, you can check the AppleVis Guides 
>>> section:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides
>>> • "A Guide to Making the Switch from Using a Windows Screen Reader to 
>>> VoiceOver On a Mac"
>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/guide-making-switch-using-windows-screen-reader-voiceover-mac
>>> • "VoiceOver Keyboard Shortcuts for Mac OS X"
>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/voiceover-keyboard-shortcuts-mac-os-x
>>> • "General Keyboard Shortcuts for Mac OS X"
>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/general-keyboard-shortcut-commands-mac-os-x
>>> • "VoiceOver Gestures for Use with a Multi-Touch TrackPad on Mac OS X"
>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/voiceover-gestures-use-multi-touch-trackpad-mac-os-x
>>> 
>>> Incidentally, web versions of the "VoiceOver Getting Started" guides for 
>>> Mountain Lion in many different languages seem to be up,  I'm a little 
>>> puzzled why William didn't automatically get this by arrowing down to the 
>>> last element of the VoiceOver help menu (brought up with VO-H).  I don't 
>>> have Mountain Lion installed yet, so I can't check the language 
>>> localizations from the loaded packages, but the general rule for Mountain 
>>> Lion seems to be that you append the language localization code to the web 
>>> address.  So you start with "help.apple.com", slash, "voiceover", slash, 
>>> "info", slash, "guide", slash, "10.8", slash, and then add your 
>>> localization code. If you don't add a localization, it defaults to English, 
>>> and resolves to an ending of "English.lproj/index.html". This is:
>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/index.html
>>> 
>>> In general, most language localization codes are two letters, followed by a 
>>> period and the five letter word "lproj" and end with a slash, or a slash 
>>> followed by "index.html" (either should work). But the older way is to type 
>>> out the language, such as "Dutch" and "German" and "English", so it's a bit 
>>> confusing that you use "German.lproj" or "Dutch.lproj" while French, Greek, 
>>> Danish, and Finnish use the newer two letter code convention of "fr.lproj", 
>>> "el.lproj", "da.lproj", and "fi.lproj" (with lower case letters).  In the 
>>> case of Chinese, to distinguish between simplified characters and 
>>> traditional characters, the language code adds a two letter country 
>>> designation in caps after an underbar: "zh_CN.lproj" and "zh_TW.lproj", so 
>>> the VoiceOver user guides in these versions become:
>>> • Chinese (Simplified Characters)
>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/zh_CN.lproj/index.html
>>> • Chinese (Traditional Characters)
>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/zh_TW.lproj/index.html
>>> But in most cases, there's a simple two letter code for the language, such 
>>> as "ar" for Arabic, "ja" for Japanese, "pl" for Polish, etc. 
>>> 
>>> Anyone who has trouble viewing current "VoiceOver Getting Started" guides 
>>> for Mountain Lion in their language can try this scheme, or post back with 
>>> questions.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello Esther
>>>> Thanks for the information on the voiceover user guide for Mountain lion. 
>>>> I have however, an additional question. Last year, I downloaded a brf file 
>>>> from the Apple website for voiceover under snow Leopard. I also bought the 
>>>> 2 volume set from the San Francisco Lighthouse, and back then there was a 
>>>> link on the Apple web site to go there to do it. 
>>>> I have a blind friend who has decided to switch to a Mac. Actually, she is 
>>>> going to do something that would be difficult under windows. A sighted 
>>>> friend of hers is going to get her Mac first, and my friend is going to 
>>>> learn voice over on it. She wants to read the manual ahead of time, so do 
>>>> you know if there is another link for getting a DRF file for this? 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Eugenia Firth
>>>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>>> 
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