Harry, the issue we are dealing with now is on the Discussions Board. There is a content frame with text that must be read. I cannot tab to this frame, no speech is given from within the Discussion Board. Text is visible on the screen, but I cannot figure out how to access it. Do you have any specific suggestions on how to access content within this frame? Thanks.
Les On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> wrote: > Les, > > I successfully use VO with Safari and Blackboard all of the time. It is a > good idea to change the settings to "Text only," or "Plain text," I'm not > sure how it words it. It will be under "Personalization" or something like > that. I just graduated this May and am starting another program this fall, > so I don't have an active Blackboard account to look at at the moment. > > I do hope this helps, however. > > Please note that Safari has never given me any problems. > > Thanks, > > Harry > On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> >> The user must log in, otherwise that would be a great idea. Thanks. >> >> Les >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure, in that case. I never had much luck with blackboard, but >>> haven't had to use it for about three years, so they may have improved >>> things since I was forced to endure it. I do know that they optimized it >>> for Internet Explorer, so maybe it is something in Safari? You said you >>> could see the text visually, which is odd as vo seems to not see it. Is >>> there any way you could give us a link, or does the page require the user >>> to log in? >>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Alex, >>>> >>>> I think we tried interacting with the frame, and still could not read the >>>> text. I should mention that when I tabbed over and highlighted the text >>>> in the frame, VO did not inform me of any text, so this is why I'm >>>> figuring we have a problem. >>>> >>>> Les >>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Have the student interact with the frame, and all should work as >>>>> expected. Don't forget to stop interacting when you are done reading the >>>>> text, or vo will keep navigating only what is inside the frame. You can >>>>> change this in the vo utility (vo-f8) if you want to, under the web tab >>>>> of the navigation category I believe. >>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> I have a student who's trying to use Safari on the Blackboard online >>>>>>> learning system. In the "Discussion Board" section, we are unable to >>>>>>> read plain text in a thread because the text is framed. I'm not sure if >>>>>>> it's possible to remove the frame or somehow navigate the frame. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please let me know if this is possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Les >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone, please forgive typographical errors! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blaise, lots of useful links here where you can get loads of material >>>>>>>> for using the Mac. I'd encourage you to get whatever you feel is >>>>>>>> appropriate, see below. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Esther <mori...@mac-access.net> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! >>>>>>>>> Date: July 29, 2012 2:27:27 PM EDT >>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Gigi and Others, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is a VoiceOver downloads page that gives a link to the >>>>>>>>> Lighthouse for the Blind in San Francisco, but so far it has not been >>>>>>>>> updated for Mountain Lion. So the links for downloading the >>>>>>>>> VoiceOver Getting Started Guide in a web browser, and also to the >>>>>>>>> electronic braille version in .brf format, still point to Lion. As >>>>>>>>> far as I can tell, versions for Mountain Lion have yet been prepared >>>>>>>>> on these sites. At some point this page should be updated, but right >>>>>>>>> now it points to Lion versions: >>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It might help your friend to review some of the Vision Australia >>>>>>>>> podcasts on working with VoiceOver. Also, you can check the >>>>>>>>> AppleVis Guides section: >>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides >>>>>>>>> • "A Guide to Making the Switch from Using a Windows Screen Reader to >>>>>>>>> VoiceOver On a Mac" >>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/guide-making-switch-using-windows-screen-reader-voiceover-mac >>>>>>>>> • "VoiceOver Keyboard Shortcuts for Mac OS X" >>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/voiceover-keyboard-shortcuts-mac-os-x >>>>>>>>> • "General Keyboard Shortcuts for Mac OS X" >>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/general-keyboard-shortcut-commands-mac-os-x >>>>>>>>> • "VoiceOver Gestures for Use with a Multi-Touch TrackPad on Mac OS X" >>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/voiceover-gestures-use-multi-touch-trackpad-mac-os-x >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Incidentally, web versions of the "VoiceOver Getting Started" guides >>>>>>>>> for Mountain Lion in many different languages seem to be up, I'm a >>>>>>>>> little puzzled why William didn't automatically get this by arrowing >>>>>>>>> down to the last element of the VoiceOver help menu (brought up with >>>>>>>>> VO-H). I don't have Mountain Lion installed yet, so I can't check >>>>>>>>> the language localizations from the loaded packages, but the general >>>>>>>>> rule for Mountain Lion seems to be that you append the language >>>>>>>>> localization code to the web address. So you start with >>>>>>>>> "help.apple.com", slash, "voiceover", slash, "info", slash, "guide", >>>>>>>>> slash, "10.8", slash, and then add your localization code. If you >>>>>>>>> don't add a localization, it defaults to English, and resolves to an >>>>>>>>> ending of "English.lproj/index.html". This is: >>>>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/index.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In general, most language localization codes are two letters, >>>>>>>>> followed by a period and the five letter word "lproj" and end with a >>>>>>>>> slash, or a slash followed by "index.html" (either should work). But >>>>>>>>> the older way is to type out the language, such as "Dutch" and >>>>>>>>> "German" and "English", so it's a bit confusing that you use >>>>>>>>> "German.lproj" or "Dutch.lproj" while French, Greek, Danish, and >>>>>>>>> Finnish use the newer two letter code convention of "fr.lproj", >>>>>>>>> "el.lproj", "da.lproj", and "fi.lproj" (with lower case letters). In >>>>>>>>> the case of Chinese, to distinguish between simplified characters and >>>>>>>>> traditional characters, the language code adds a two letter country >>>>>>>>> designation in caps after an underbar: "zh_CN.lproj" and >>>>>>>>> "zh_TW.lproj", so the VoiceOver user guides in these versions become: >>>>>>>>> • Chinese (Simplified Characters) >>>>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/zh_CN.lproj/index.html >>>>>>>>> • Chinese (Traditional Characters) >>>>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/zh_TW.lproj/index.html >>>>>>>>> But in most cases, there's a simple two letter code for the language, >>>>>>>>> such as "ar" for Arabic, "ja" for Japanese, "pl" for Polish, etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyone who has trouble viewing current "VoiceOver Getting Started" >>>>>>>>> guides for Mountain Lion in their language can try this scheme, or >>>>>>>>> post back with questions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Esther >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Esther >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the information on the voiceover user guide for Mountain >>>>>>>>>> lion. I have however, an additional question. Last year, I >>>>>>>>>> downloaded a brf file from the Apple website for voiceover under >>>>>>>>>> snow Leopard. I also bought the 2 volume set from the San Francisco >>>>>>>>>> Lighthouse, and back then there was a link on the Apple web site to >>>>>>>>>> go there to do it. >>>>>>>>>> I have a blind friend who has decided to switch to a Mac. Actually, >>>>>>>>>> she is going to do something that would be difficult under windows. >>>>>>>>>> A sighted friend of hers is going to get her Mac first, and my >>>>>>>>>> friend is going to learn voice over on it. She wants to read the >>>>>>>>>> manual ahead of time, so do you know if there is another link for >>>>>>>>>> getting a DRF file for this? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Eugenia Firth >>>>>>>>>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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