I second what Alex has said here. Set tab to interact automatically, then go arrow oven after interacting with the frame. You should then be able to read thee text in the threads. Do, however, be sure and set the display to text only, or however it is worded in the Blackboard preferences.
Since you are having trouble configuring VO on the network, however, you may want to involve the IT folks at the university. Thanks, Harry On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is the only thing you have tried tabbing? I normally arrow to where I want, > or use navigation keys to get there. Once I find the frame, I interact > (vo-shift-down arrow). You may not have tab set to interact automatically, > which could be the problem. > On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Harry, the issue we are dealing with now is on the Discussions Board. There >> is a content frame with text that must be read. I cannot tab to this frame, >> no speech is given from within the Discussion Board. Text is visible on the >> screen, but I cannot figure out how to access it. Do you have any specific >> suggestions on how to access content within this frame? Thanks. >> >> Les >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Les, >>> >>> I successfully use VO with Safari and Blackboard all of the time. It is a >>> good idea to change the settings to "Text only," or "Plain text," I'm not >>> sure how it words it. It will be under "Personalization" or something like >>> that. I just graduated this May and am starting another program this fall, >>> so I don't have an active Blackboard account to look at at the moment. >>> >>> I do hope this helps, however. >>> >>> Please note that Safari has never given me any problems. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Harry >>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Alex, >>>> >>>> The user must log in, otherwise that would be a great idea. Thanks. >>>> >>>> Les >>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not sure, in that case. I never had much luck with blackboard, but >>>>> haven't had to use it for about three years, so they may have improved >>>>> things since I was forced to endure it. I do know that they optimized it >>>>> for Internet Explorer, so maybe it is something in Safari? You said you >>>>> could see the text visually, which is odd as vo seems to not see it. Is >>>>> there any way you could give us a link, or does the page require the user >>>>> to log in? >>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>>> >>>>>> I think we tried interacting with the frame, and still could not read >>>>>> the text. I should mention that when I tabbed over and highlighted the >>>>>> text in the frame, VO did not inform me of any text, so this is why I'm >>>>>> figuring we have a problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Les >>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Have the student interact with the frame, and all should work as >>>>>>> expected. Don't forget to stop interacting when you are done reading >>>>>>> the text, or vo will keep navigating only what is inside the frame. You >>>>>>> can change this in the vo utility (vo-f8) if you want to, under the web >>>>>>> tab of the navigation category I believe. >>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have a student who's trying to use Safari on the Blackboard online >>>>>>>>> learning system. In the "Discussion Board" section, we are unable to >>>>>>>>> read plain text in a thread because the text is framed. I'm not sure >>>>>>>>> if it's possible to remove the frame or somehow navigate the frame. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please let me know if this is possible. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Les >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone, please forgive typographical errors! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Blaise, lots of useful links here where you can get loads of >>>>>>>>>> material for using the Mac. I'd encourage you to get whatever you >>>>>>>>>> feel is appropriate, see below. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Esther <mori...@mac-access.net> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! >>>>>>>>>>> Date: July 29, 2012 2:27:27 PM EDT >>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Gigi and Others, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There is a VoiceOver downloads page that gives a link to the >>>>>>>>>>> Lighthouse for the Blind in San Francisco, but so far it has not >>>>>>>>>>> been updated for Mountain Lion. So the links for downloading the >>>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver Getting Started Guide in a web browser, and also to the >>>>>>>>>>> electronic braille version in .brf format, still point to Lion. As >>>>>>>>>>> far as I can tell, versions for Mountain Lion have yet been >>>>>>>>>>> prepared on these sites. At some point this page should be >>>>>>>>>>> updated, but right now it points to Lion versions: >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It might help your friend to review some of the Vision Australia >>>>>>>>>>> podcasts on working with VoiceOver. Also, you can check the >>>>>>>>>>> AppleVis Guides section: >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides >>>>>>>>>>> • "A Guide to Making the Switch from Using a Windows Screen Reader >>>>>>>>>>> to VoiceOver On a Mac" >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/guide-making-switch-using-windows-screen-reader-voiceover-mac >>>>>>>>>>> • "VoiceOver Keyboard Shortcuts for Mac OS X" >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/voiceover-keyboard-shortcuts-mac-os-x >>>>>>>>>>> • "General Keyboard Shortcuts for Mac OS X" >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/general-keyboard-shortcut-commands-mac-os-x >>>>>>>>>>> • "VoiceOver Gestures for Use with a Multi-Touch TrackPad on Mac OS >>>>>>>>>>> X" >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/voiceover-gestures-use-multi-touch-trackpad-mac-os-x >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Incidentally, web versions of the "VoiceOver Getting Started" >>>>>>>>>>> guides for Mountain Lion in many different languages seem to be up, >>>>>>>>>>> I'm a little puzzled why William didn't automatically get this by >>>>>>>>>>> arrowing down to the last element of the VoiceOver help menu >>>>>>>>>>> (brought up with VO-H). I don't have Mountain Lion installed yet, >>>>>>>>>>> so I can't check the language localizations from the loaded >>>>>>>>>>> packages, but the general rule for Mountain Lion seems to be that >>>>>>>>>>> you append the language localization code to the web address. So >>>>>>>>>>> you start with "help.apple.com", slash, "voiceover", slash, "info", >>>>>>>>>>> slash, "guide", slash, "10.8", slash, and then add your >>>>>>>>>>> localization code. If you don't add a localization, it defaults to >>>>>>>>>>> English, and resolves to an ending of "English.lproj/index.html". >>>>>>>>>>> This is: >>>>>>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/index.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In general, most language localization codes are two letters, >>>>>>>>>>> followed by a period and the five letter word "lproj" and end with >>>>>>>>>>> a slash, or a slash followed by "index.html" (either should work). >>>>>>>>>>> But the older way is to type out the language, such as "Dutch" and >>>>>>>>>>> "German" and "English", so it's a bit confusing that you use >>>>>>>>>>> "German.lproj" or "Dutch.lproj" while French, Greek, Danish, and >>>>>>>>>>> Finnish use the newer two letter code convention of "fr.lproj", >>>>>>>>>>> "el.lproj", "da.lproj", and "fi.lproj" (with lower case letters). >>>>>>>>>>> In the case of Chinese, to distinguish between simplified >>>>>>>>>>> characters and traditional characters, the language code adds a two >>>>>>>>>>> letter country designation in caps after an underbar: "zh_CN.lproj" >>>>>>>>>>> and "zh_TW.lproj", so the VoiceOver user guides in these versions >>>>>>>>>>> become: >>>>>>>>>>> • Chinese (Simplified Characters) >>>>>>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/zh_CN.lproj/index.html >>>>>>>>>>> • Chinese (Traditional Characters) >>>>>>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/zh_TW.lproj/index.html >>>>>>>>>>> But in most cases, there's a simple two letter code for the >>>>>>>>>>> language, such as "ar" for Arabic, "ja" for Japanese, "pl" for >>>>>>>>>>> Polish, etc. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who has trouble viewing current "VoiceOver Getting Started" >>>>>>>>>>> guides for Mountain Lion in their language can try this scheme, or >>>>>>>>>>> post back with questions. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Esther >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Esther >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the information on the voiceover user guide for >>>>>>>>>>>> Mountain lion. I have however, an additional question. Last year, >>>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded a brf file from the Apple website for voiceover under >>>>>>>>>>>> snow Leopard. I also bought the 2 volume set from the San >>>>>>>>>>>> Francisco Lighthouse, and back then there was a link on the Apple >>>>>>>>>>>> web site to go there to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a blind friend who has decided to switch to a Mac. >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, she is going to do something that would be difficult >>>>>>>>>>>> under windows. A sighted friend of hers is going to get her Mac >>>>>>>>>>>> first, and my friend is going to learn voice over on it. She wants >>>>>>>>>>>> to read the manual ahead of time, so do you know if there is >>>>>>>>>>>> another link for getting a DRF file for this? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Eugenia Firth >>>>>>>>>>>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
