I will see what I can do. I will have to probably have sited help, going through the menus and stuff to get to the secondary audio, but I'll see if I can get anywhere with it. On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
> The same energy the Mice is using to circulate stolen movies and the same > energy these folks are using to circulate stolen content could be used to > insure that information gets circulated. > The laws are new, have you any idea how many cable providers and satellites > companies would jump if people started calling and emailing, informing them > of the regulation and asking for what they are entitled to have as a paying > customer? > Most stuff is done because of ignorance industry wise. You must demonstrate > that you are a market for those providing content to that market...and many > benefit from audio descriptions, just like many benefit from audio books or > voice over or etc. > No matter what your income level or place in society you are a consumer. they > will take you seriously not because they should to feel good, but because > you are a consumer...when more of you start acting like one that is. > You pay their wages, buy their products and keep them functioning...never > mind your score on an eye chart. > > I appreciate that you understand the difference. > Still, as with many groups in the human family, some are very invested in the > victim mentality. I deserve to cheat on my wife / husband or to have an > e-book without copyright protection, or to get stolen downloads because my > eyes work differently. > Lots of people do it, my skin, my social status, my use of or non-use of the > language. the world owes me just because, I choose to think I got a bad hand. > Those freedom seekers are distorting freedom. > and as Mark twain put it, do not say the world owes you anything...it was > here first. > > > On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote: > >> My view on it is, that if I can get it to work, then I will not look back. >> The illegal ways don't have all the content anyways, I know for sure that >> not all Star Trek, Next Generation episodes are available. So, if I can >> figure out how to take the most advantage out of the FCC's way of doing it, >> then I certainly will. I think there will always be those who will pirate, >> so that they can take the content everywhere, and use it in any way. But I >> think that if there was more abundant info on how to get the TV set up with >> the audio description, and how to do it with as many TVs as possible, mine >> being a Visio for instance, I think many will switch to that method, as that >> will mean that they can sit there with the family and all will be able to >> enjoy the same content. But, as twith the sited people, there will always be >> those freedom seekers who want to do everything with all the content they >> can, no matter how little the content. >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: >> >>> depending on where you are, the source of your programming, your cable >>> provider or satellites provider is required to make that work for you. >>> In fact you can file an FCC complaint now if they do not. >>> Additionally, efforts going on to make those menus work easily will not get >>> much support if people are just going to circulate avenues to stolen >>> property. >>> And you wonder why the author's guild fears making books work? >>> What is keeping programs with audio descriptions from getting sponsorship >>> the way captioning does? >>> The attitude that those getting the description do not deserve to be >>> treated like the rest of the consumer marketplace. >>> They can and will just steal it and circulate it as if this is perfectly >>> fine. >>> You cannot have it both ways, either you deserve a respected place at the >>> audience market table regardless of how differently you view that table, or >>> you deserve the stolen crumbs from that table. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for that. If I can figure out how the menus on my TV work, I will >>>> certainly use what the FCC has provided. >>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> you bet it really matters. >>>>> And yes they do. >>>>> As of July 2012, all five broadcast networks and the same cable networks >>>>> must provide audio described content, and they are doing i, every single >>>>> week. >>>>> all television stations in the top 25 markets stateside must provide the >>>>> content as well...with additional markets joining each year. >>>>> why should anyone invest in population who is simply going to steal >>>>> property. >>>>> cable providers and satellites providers must insure that you can access >>>>> the described content. >>>>> I do not have the link to post now, but program listings and details are >>>>> on the ACB website. >>>>> frankly I find this exclusionary and distasteful. >>>>> consumers who happen to score differently on an eye chart, must be >>>>> segregated to stolen property on the Internet Never mind that Hollywood >>>>> films and television shows air each week with described content. >>>>> are you so lacking in personal dignity that you feel stolen property is >>>>> all you deserve? >>>>> Especially since the entire thing could be done legally? >>>>> Is to some extent already. >>>>> No one is going to value you if you do not value yourselves, document >>>>> that there is a market, use what the FCC is doing to enhance the ability >>>>> for everyone to enjoy television as they choose. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Karen >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hmm. Does it really matter? No one else seems to provide this, do they? >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> ahem, >>>>>>> they do have the legal right to run this service with this content? >>>>>>> Karen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are their any UK channels? Do you think we could have an IOS App so >>>>>>>> that we can watch this service anywhere we go and we're not tied to >>>>>>>> the computer? I like this service. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 07:51 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I do like this service. Its pretty good, I can finally watch sci-fi, >>>>>>>>> and therefore can watch star trek! :) >>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Matt Dierckens >>>>>>>>> <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>> I have been given permission to post about this from another list. >>>>>>>>>> This is a great service. >>>>>>>>>> Check it out and please spread the word. >>>>>>>>>> Blindy.tv >>>>>>>>>> Have you ever wanted to watch TV with audio description but can't >>>>>>>>>> get the track on your tv? Well, now you can...sort of. Have a look >>>>>>>>>> at this. >>>>>>>>>> http://www.blindy.tv >>>>>>>>>> This project was created so that everyone could watch TV episodes >>>>>>>>>> with audio description. Every show (except the brain channel) has >>>>>>>>>> described content. You can switch channels just like with an actual >>>>>>>>>> TV. So far, >>>>>>>>>> their are 5 channels. Comedy, Drama, Si-fi, Brain and ETC. More may >>>>>>>>>> be added if needed. Each show is either 30 or 60 minutes long. After >>>>>>>>>> the show their are commercials (better than on TV, I can promise you >>>>>>>>>> that), a news segment or comedy skit, and some instrumental music at >>>>>>>>>> the top and bottom of each hour. >>>>>>>>>> To access this place, you can do one of two things: You can either >>>>>>>>>> go to the website linked above and used the web players, or, if >>>>>>>>>> you'd rather listen in your media player of choice, place this link >>>>>>>>>> into it. >>>>>>>>>> This will load all channels, and you can use the next and previous >>>>>>>>>> controls to move through the different channels. >>>>>>>>>> http://blindy.tv/all.m3u >>>>>>>>>> Please give any suggestions or criticisms you have. Feedback is >>>>>>>>>> always welcome. If you like the service, let us know. If you do not, >>>>>>>>>> tell us what we could do to fix it up. 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