Now I'd say you have an idea very well worth pursuing.
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Michael Babcock <michael.babcoc...@gmail.com> wrote: > i have been ignoring this topic for most of the day. Excluding the fact that > I did check out the website. It's a very good site and I think deserves a > support from the blind community. My opinion is yes, the FCC did pass this > law for cable companies and satellite companies, but to the best of my > knowledge this law does not apply to online streaming providers. Don't know > about most of you, but I typically don't have an average $100-$200 a month to > spend on TV. So what do I do? Netflix, $7.95 a month and I have all of the TV > I need. Unfortunately however, I am unable to contact Netflix support about > this issue, because the FCC has not found it necessary to make it a > regulation for streaming providers to provide described content. However, I > do spend a lot of time on my iPhone, or my computer. Most of our TV streaming > is done via the Apple TV, or my father smart TV. We do most of our streaming > on Netflix, and no longer have either satellite or cable providers. > Therefore, visually impaired individuals in this type of category would not > be covered under the FCC > 'laws. In my opinion, what would be smart of this company would be to contact > Netflix and find out if there is a way that the audio tracks of their site > can be streamed with the video tracks of Netflix. This would be a great > partnership idea for the two sites, if at all possible. That way, the audio > description can be available free of charge, for individuals to go to > blindy.com However, if you want the video for your family to be able to enjoy > the video as well, and the convenience of AppleTV iOS applications, and > android applications, then you would pay the $7.95 a month for the service. > Just my two cents, and I'm not affiliated with the site in any way shape or > form, though I have contacted them regarding potential advertising > opportunities. Or why? Because, I see that this is a wonderful service for > the blind community, that is widely available. Has anyone ever thought about > the fact that Serotec is charging it to be able to allow blind individuals to > listen to this content monthly? And the service is providing it for free, and > all the sudden The free service becomes an issue, where Acento text service > is still available? Just a thing to think about. Michael > PS, that was Serotec service is not a problem. > > http://empoweringtheblind.com > Empowering the blind, one step at a time. > > > On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: > >> The same energy the Mice is using to circulate stolen movies and the same >> energy these folks are using to circulate stolen content could be used to >> insure that information gets circulated. >> The laws are new, have you any idea how many cable providers and satellites >> companies would jump if people started calling and emailing, informing them >> of the regulation and asking for what they are entitled to have as a paying >> customer? >> Most stuff is done because of ignorance industry wise. You must >> demonstrate that you are a market for those providing content to that >> market...and many benefit from audio descriptions, just like many benefit >> from audio books or voice over or etc. >> No matter what your income level or place in society you are a consumer. >> they will take you seriously not because they should to feel good, but >> because you are a consumer...when more of you start acting like one that is. >> You pay their wages, buy their products and keep them functioning...never >> mind your score on an eye chart. >> >> I appreciate that you understand the difference. >> Still, as with many groups in the human family, some are very invested in >> the victim mentality. I deserve to cheat on my wife / husband or to have an >> e-book without copyright protection, or to get stolen downloads because my >> eyes work differently. >> Lots of people do it, my skin, my social status, my use of or non-use of the >> language. the world owes me just because, I choose to think I got a bad hand. >> Those freedom seekers are distorting freedom. >> and as Mark twain put it, do not say the world owes you anything...it was >> here first. >> >> >> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote: >> >>> My view on it is, that if I can get it to work, then I will not look back. >>> The illegal ways don't have all the content anyways, I know for sure that >>> not all Star Trek, Next Generation episodes are available. So, if I can >>> figure out how to take the most advantage out of the FCC's way of doing it, >>> then I certainly will. I think there will always be those who will pirate, >>> so that they can take the content everywhere, and use it in any way. But I >>> think that if there was more abundant info on how to get the TV set up with >>> the audio description, and how to do it with as many TVs as possible, mine >>> being a Visio for instance, I think many will switch to that method, as >>> that will mean that they can sit there with the family and all will be able >>> to enjoy the same content. But, as twith the sited people, there will >>> always be those freedom seekers who want to do everything with all the >>> content they can, no matter how little the content. >>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> depending on where you are, the source of your programming, your cable >>>> provider or satellites provider is required to make that work for you. >>>> In fact you can file an FCC complaint now if they do not. >>>> Additionally, efforts going on to make those menus work easily will not >>>> get much support if people are just going to circulate avenues to stolen >>>> property. >>>> And you wonder why the author's guild fears making books work? >>>> What is keeping programs with audio descriptions from getting sponsorship >>>> the way captioning does? >>>> The attitude that those getting the description do not deserve to be >>>> treated like the rest of the consumer marketplace. >>>> They can and will just steal it and circulate it as if this is perfectly >>>> fine. >>>> You cannot have it both ways, either you deserve a respected place at the >>>> audience market table regardless of how differently you view that table, >>>> or you deserve the stolen crumbs from that table. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for that. If I can figure out how the menus on my TV work, I will >>>>> certainly use what the FCC has provided. >>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> you bet it really matters. >>>>>> And yes they do. >>>>>> As of July 2012, all five broadcast networks and the same cable networks >>>>>> must provide audio described content, and they are doing i, every single >>>>>> week. >>>>>> all television stations in the top 25 markets stateside must provide the >>>>>> content as well...with additional markets joining each year. >>>>>> why should anyone invest in population who is simply going to steal >>>>>> property. >>>>>> cable providers and satellites providers must insure that you can access >>>>>> the described content. >>>>>> I do not have the link to post now, but program listings and details are >>>>>> on the ACB website. >>>>>> frankly I find this exclusionary and distasteful. >>>>>> consumers who happen to score differently on an eye chart, must be >>>>>> segregated to stolen property on the Internet Never mind that Hollywood >>>>>> films and television shows air each week with described content. >>>>>> are you so lacking in personal dignity that you feel stolen property is >>>>>> all you deserve? >>>>>> Especially since the entire thing could be done legally? >>>>>> Is to some extent already. >>>>>> No one is going to value you if you do not value yourselves, document >>>>>> that there is a market, use what the FCC is doing to enhance the ability >>>>>> for everyone to enjoy television as they choose. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Karen >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hmm. Does it really matter? No one else seems to provide this, do they? >>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ahem, >>>>>>>> they do have the legal right to run this service with this content? >>>>>>>> Karen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are their any UK channels? Do you think we could have an IOS App so >>>>>>>>> that we can watch this service anywhere we go and we're not tied to >>>>>>>>> the computer? I like this service. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 07:51 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I do like this service. Its pretty good, I can finally watch sci-fi, >>>>>>>>>> and therefore can watch star trek! :) >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Matt Dierckens >>>>>>>>>> <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>> I have been given permission to post about this from another list. >>>>>>>>>>> This is a great service. >>>>>>>>>>> Check it out and please spread the word. >>>>>>>>>>> Blindy.tv >>>>>>>>>>> Have you ever wanted to watch TV with audio description but can't >>>>>>>>>>> get the track on your tv? Well, now you can...sort of. Have a look >>>>>>>>>>> at this. >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.blindy.tv >>>>>>>>>>> This project was created so that everyone could watch TV episodes >>>>>>>>>>> with audio description. Every show (except the brain channel) has >>>>>>>>>>> described content. You can switch channels just like with an actual >>>>>>>>>>> TV. So far, >>>>>>>>>>> their are 5 channels. Comedy, Drama, Si-fi, Brain and ETC. More may >>>>>>>>>>> be added if needed. Each show is either 30 or 60 minutes long. >>>>>>>>>>> After the show their are commercials (better than on TV, I can >>>>>>>>>>> promise you that), a news segment or comedy skit, and some >>>>>>>>>>> instrumental music at the top and bottom of each hour. >>>>>>>>>>> To access this place, you can do one of two things: You can either >>>>>>>>>>> go to the website linked above and used the web players, or, if >>>>>>>>>>> you'd rather listen in your media player of choice, place this link >>>>>>>>>>> into it. >>>>>>>>>>> This will load all channels, and you can use the next and previous >>>>>>>>>>> controls to move through the different channels. >>>>>>>>>>> http://blindy.tv/all.m3u >>>>>>>>>>> Please give any suggestions or criticisms you have. Feedback is >>>>>>>>>>> always welcome. If you like the service, let us know. If you do >>>>>>>>>>> not, tell us what we could do to fix it up. 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