i have been ignoring this topic for most of the day. Excluding the fact that I did check out the website. It's a very good site and I think deserves a support from the blind community. My opinion is yes, the FCC did pass this law for cable companies and satellite companies, but to the best of my knowledge this law does not apply to online streaming providers. Don't know about most of you, but I typically don't have an average $100-$200 a month to spend on TV. So what do I do? Netflix, $7.95 a month and I have all of the TV I need. Unfortunately however, I am unable to contact Netflix support about this issue, because the FCC has not found it necessary to make it a regulation for streaming providers to provide described content. However, I do spend a lot of time on my iPhone, or my computer. Most of our TV streaming is done via the Apple TV, or my father smart TV. We do most of our streaming on Netflix, and no longer have either satellite or cable providers. Therefore, visually impaired individuals in this type of category would not be covered under the FCC 'laws. In my opinion, what would be smart of this company would be to contact Netflix and find out if there is a way that the audio tracks of their site can be streamed with the video tracks of Netflix. This would be a great partnership idea for the two sites, if at all possible. That way, the audio description can be available free of charge, for individuals to go to blindy.com However, if you want the video for your family to be able to enjoy the video as well, and the convenience of AppleTV iOS applications, and android applications, then you would pay the $7.95 a month for the service. Just my two cents, and I'm not affiliated with the site in any way shape or form, though I have contacted them regarding potential advertising opportunities. Or why? Because, I see that this is a wonderful service for the blind community, that is widely available. Has anyone ever thought about the fact that Serotec is charging it to be able to allow blind individuals to listen to this content monthly? And the service is providing it for free, and all the sudden The free service becomes an issue, where Acento text service is still available? Just a thing to think about. Michael PS, that was Serotec service is not a problem.
http://empoweringtheblind.com Empowering the blind, one step at a time. On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: > The same energy the Mice is using to circulate stolen movies and the same > energy these folks are using to circulate stolen content could be used to > insure that information gets circulated. > The laws are new, have you any idea how many cable providers and satellites > companies would jump if people started calling and emailing, informing them > of the regulation and asking for what they are entitled to have as a paying > customer? > Most stuff is done because of ignorance industry wise. You must demonstrate > that you are a market for those providing content to that market...and many > benefit from audio descriptions, just like many benefit from audio books or > voice over or etc. > No matter what your income level or place in society you are a consumer. they > will take you seriously not because they should to feel good, but because > you are a consumer...when more of you start acting like one that is. > You pay their wages, buy their products and keep them functioning...never > mind your score on an eye chart. > > I appreciate that you understand the difference. > Still, as with many groups in the human family, some are very invested in the > victim mentality. I deserve to cheat on my wife / husband or to have an > e-book without copyright protection, or to get stolen downloads because my > eyes work differently. > Lots of people do it, my skin, my social status, my use of or non-use of the > language. the world owes me just because, I choose to think I got a bad hand. > Those freedom seekers are distorting freedom. > and as Mark twain put it, do not say the world owes you anything...it was > here first. > > > On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote: > >> My view on it is, that if I can get it to work, then I will not look back. >> The illegal ways don't have all the content anyways, I know for sure that >> not all Star Trek, Next Generation episodes are available. So, if I can >> figure out how to take the most advantage out of the FCC's way of doing it, >> then I certainly will. I think there will always be those who will pirate, >> so that they can take the content everywhere, and use it in any way. But I >> think that if there was more abundant info on how to get the TV set up with >> the audio description, and how to do it with as many TVs as possible, mine >> being a Visio for instance, I think many will switch to that method, as that >> will mean that they can sit there with the family and all will be able to >> enjoy the same content. But, as twith the sited people, there will always be >> those freedom seekers who want to do everything with all the content they >> can, no matter how little the content. >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: >> >>> depending on where you are, the source of your programming, your cable >>> provider or satellites provider is required to make that work for you. >>> In fact you can file an FCC complaint now if they do not. >>> Additionally, efforts going on to make those menus work easily will not get >>> much support if people are just going to circulate avenues to stolen >>> property. >>> And you wonder why the author's guild fears making books work? >>> What is keeping programs with audio descriptions from getting sponsorship >>> the way captioning does? >>> The attitude that those getting the description do not deserve to be >>> treated like the rest of the consumer marketplace. >>> They can and will just steal it and circulate it as if this is perfectly >>> fine. >>> You cannot have it both ways, either you deserve a respected place at the >>> audience market table regardless of how differently you view that table, or >>> you deserve the stolen crumbs from that table. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for that. If I can figure out how the menus on my TV work, I will >>>> certainly use what the FCC has provided. >>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> you bet it really matters. >>>>> And yes they do. >>>>> As of July 2012, all five broadcast networks and the same cable networks >>>>> must provide audio described content, and they are doing i, every single >>>>> week. >>>>> all television stations in the top 25 markets stateside must provide the >>>>> content as well...with additional markets joining each year. >>>>> why should anyone invest in population who is simply going to steal >>>>> property. >>>>> cable providers and satellites providers must insure that you can access >>>>> the described content. >>>>> I do not have the link to post now, but program listings and details are >>>>> on the ACB website. >>>>> frankly I find this exclusionary and distasteful. >>>>> consumers who happen to score differently on an eye chart, must be >>>>> segregated to stolen property on the Internet Never mind that Hollywood >>>>> films and television shows air each week with described content. >>>>> are you so lacking in personal dignity that you feel stolen property is >>>>> all you deserve? >>>>> Especially since the entire thing could be done legally? >>>>> Is to some extent already. >>>>> No one is going to value you if you do not value yourselves, document >>>>> that there is a market, use what the FCC is doing to enhance the ability >>>>> for everyone to enjoy television as they choose. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Karen >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hmm. Does it really matter? No one else seems to provide this, do they? >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> ahem, >>>>>>> they do have the legal right to run this service with this content? >>>>>>> Karen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are their any UK channels? Do you think we could have an IOS App so >>>>>>>> that we can watch this service anywhere we go and we're not tied to >>>>>>>> the computer? I like this service. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 07:51 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I do like this service. Its pretty good, I can finally watch sci-fi, >>>>>>>>> and therefore can watch star trek! :) >>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Matt Dierckens >>>>>>>>> <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>> I have been given permission to post about this from another list. >>>>>>>>>> This is a great service. >>>>>>>>>> Check it out and please spread the word. >>>>>>>>>> Blindy.tv >>>>>>>>>> Have you ever wanted to watch TV with audio description but can't >>>>>>>>>> get the track on your tv? Well, now you can...sort of. Have a look >>>>>>>>>> at this. >>>>>>>>>> http://www.blindy.tv >>>>>>>>>> This project was created so that everyone could watch TV episodes >>>>>>>>>> with audio description. Every show (except the brain channel) has >>>>>>>>>> described content. You can switch channels just like with an actual >>>>>>>>>> TV. So far, >>>>>>>>>> their are 5 channels. Comedy, Drama, Si-fi, Brain and ETC. More may >>>>>>>>>> be added if needed. Each show is either 30 or 60 minutes long. After >>>>>>>>>> the show their are commercials (better than on TV, I can promise you >>>>>>>>>> that), a news segment or comedy skit, and some instrumental music at >>>>>>>>>> the top and bottom of each hour. >>>>>>>>>> To access this place, you can do one of two things: You can either >>>>>>>>>> go to the website linked above and used the web players, or, if >>>>>>>>>> you'd rather listen in your media player of choice, place this link >>>>>>>>>> into it. >>>>>>>>>> This will load all channels, and you can use the next and previous >>>>>>>>>> controls to move through the different channels. >>>>>>>>>> http://blindy.tv/all.m3u >>>>>>>>>> Please give any suggestions or criticisms you have. Feedback is >>>>>>>>>> always welcome. If you like the service, let us know. If you do not, >>>>>>>>>> tell us what we could do to fix it up. 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