At the risk of being off-topic, could you provide us with some popular shows 
that have audio description? Specifically, I enjoy Star Trek, Doctor Who, Star 
Gate (well, I would enjoy that one were it described), and the CBS show The Big 
Bang Theory. To my knowledge, none of these are ever described. If they are, I 
would love to know about it. I can figure out how to enable the descriptions if 
indeed there are descriptions to be heard, but I don't think these shows 
regularly air with any descriptions. Perhaps my cable company (TWC) would know, 
but I have never had much luck asking basic tech support about accessibility - 
they never seem to know what I'm talking about. I do agree that blind people 
cannot have it both ways, but exactly what are we supposed to do in the years 
it takes standard programming to become accessible?
On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

> depending on where you are, the source of your programming, your cable 
> provider or satellites provider is required to make that work for you.
> In fact you can file an FCC complaint now if they do not.
> Additionally, efforts going on to make those menus work easily will not get 
> much support if people are just going to circulate avenues  to stolen 
> property.
> And you wonder why the author's guild fears making books work?
> What is keeping programs with audio descriptions from getting sponsorship the 
> way captioning does?
> The attitude that those getting the description do not deserve to be treated 
> like the rest of the consumer marketplace.
> They can and will just steal it and circulate it as if this is perfectly fine.
> You cannot have it both ways, either you deserve a respected place at the 
> audience market table regardless of how differently you view that table, or 
> you deserve the stolen crumbs  from that table.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for that. If I can figure out how the menus on my TV work, I will 
>> certainly use what the FCC has provided.
>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> you bet it really matters.
>>> And yes they do.
>>> As of July 2012, all five broadcast networks and the same cable networks 
>>> must provide audio described content, and they are doing i, every single 
>>> week.
>>> all television stations in the top 25 markets stateside must provide the 
>>> content as well...with  additional markets  joining each year.
>>> why  should anyone invest in population who is simply going to steal 
>>> property.
>>> cable providers and satellites providers must insure that you can access 
>>> the described content.
>>> I do not have the link to post now, but program listings and details are on 
>>> the ACB website.
>>> frankly I find this exclusionary and distasteful.
>>> consumers who happen to score differently on an eye chart, must be 
>>> segregated to stolen property on the Internet Never mind that Hollywood 
>>> films and television shows air each week with  described content.
>>> are you so lacking in personal dignity that you feel stolen property is all 
>>> you deserve?
>>> Especially since the entire thing could be done legally?
>>> Is to some extent already.
>>> No one is going to value you if you do not value yourselves, document that 
>>> there is a market, use what the FCC is doing to enhance the ability for 
>>> everyone to enjoy television as they choose.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hmm. Does it really matter? No one else seems to provide this, do they?
>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ahem,
>>>>> they do have the legal right to run this service with this content?
>>>>> Karen
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are their any UK channels?  Do you think we could have an IOS App so 
>>>>>> that we can watch this service anywhere we go and we're not tied to the 
>>>>>> computer?  I like this service.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 07:51 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I do like this service. Its pretty good, I can finally watch sci-fi, 
>>>>>>> and therefore can watch star trek! :)
>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Matt Dierckens <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>> I have been given permission to post about this from another list. 
>>>>>>>> This is a great service.
>>>>>>>> Check it out and please spread the word.
>>>>>>>> Blindy.tv
>>>>>>>> Have you ever wanted to watch TV with audio description but can't get 
>>>>>>>> the track on your tv? Well, now you can...sort of. Have a look at this.
>>>>>>>> http://www.blindy.tv
>>>>>>>> This project was created so that everyone could watch TV episodes with 
>>>>>>>> audio description. Every show (except the brain channel) has described 
>>>>>>>> content. You can switch channels just like with an actual TV. So far,
>>>>>>>> their are 5 channels. Comedy, Drama, Si-fi, Brain and ETC. More may be 
>>>>>>>> added if needed. Each show is either 30 or 60 minutes long. After the 
>>>>>>>> show their are commercials (better than on TV, I can promise you 
>>>>>>>> that), a news segment or comedy skit, and some instrumental music at 
>>>>>>>> the top and bottom of each hour.
>>>>>>>> To access this place, you can do one of two things: You can either go 
>>>>>>>> to the website linked above and used the web players, or, if you'd 
>>>>>>>> rather listen in your media player of choice, place this link into it.
>>>>>>>> This will load all channels, and you can use the next and previous 
>>>>>>>> controls to move through the different channels.
>>>>>>>> http://blindy.tv/all.m3u
>>>>>>>> Please give any suggestions or criticisms you have. Feedback is always 
>>>>>>>> welcome. If you like the service, let us know. If you do not, tell us  
>>>>>>>> what we could do to fix it up. Please spread the word if you like it.
>>>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>> Sent from my mac
>>>>>>>> Twitter: matt692
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