Seriously?
I don't think most sighted people that you come in contact with can even
understand voiceover nor do they even care who is calling you. Again, at
least we have the ability to have caller ID unlike when cell phones first
came out. What if you have a home phone line & a talking caller ID box
hooked up to it & someone is over at your house visiting is it any real big
deal if they hear it? Are you going to go cut it off because you're afraid
that they may hear it & have some sort of issue with who's calling you? I
dare say those things are much easier to understand than any voiceover is...
I certainly don't think so. What is a big deal to me is that we have the
ability to have caller id, text messaging capabilities, web browsing, email,
etc on our mobile devices which puts us at least on a somewhat level playing
field with our sighted piers. I'd bet if you asked most sighted folks they
wouldn't even care if someone saw their caller id... Probably wouldn't have
an issue if it were flashed up on some bilboard somewhere. I think there are
much bigger fish to fry in the accessibility world than this one. Again,
just be thankful that Apple cared enough about those of us who are visually
impaired to give us something like voiceover. Just one man's opinion & yes,
sometimes I do get paid for it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Emrah" <li...@kavun.ch>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 09:32
Subject: Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue
with VoiceOver on iPhone
Hi,
How exactly do you think you are being constructive here?
On the same register as your message, don't you think sighted people would
have an issue if their caller ID were flashed on a billboard for everyone to
see every time they get a call?
It goes without saying that it is great we have access to caller ID. What is
not so great is that it is announced out loud automatically for every one in
your immediate surroundings to hear.
I know that blind people sometimes have a hard time acknowledging the
presence of other people who can see and hear. I like using my phone in a
rather discrete fashion with a Bluetooth earpiece. I personally find it
annoying that incoming calls make Samantha irrupt through my speakerphone
and freak out the fellow traveller who is sitting right across from me. :) I
don't quite like being the subject of other's curiosity. They suddenly have
to acknowledge that there is a blind guy in the house.
I am happy for you if you don't consider it to be an issue. I guess it
depends on a multitude of settings and appreciate your opinion.
However, I still believe I have a valid point here. There is no reason for
us to broadcast the name and number of people who are calling us.
Cheers
E
On Mar 4, 2013, at 6:05 AM, Sean Paul <newsandtraf...@aol.com> wrote:
So, would you complain if it wasn't spoken at all? I'd bet you would.
Isn't it a good thing that we get caller ID at all? I mean? Seriously?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 15:54
Subject: Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue
with VoiceOver on iPhone
Hi,
Not to sound discouraging but, I honestly don't know how many really share
this concern. I'm not so sure it's unavoidable either. One could mute
speech with a 3 finger double tap when not in use or, turn Voiceover off
all together with a 3 triple press of home, and turn either back on when
receiving an incoming call or, just want access to the phone. You could
even turn down the volume of voiceover so it would be hard to hear if not
holding the device in your hand. But I must say, of all bugs I want
fixed, or features I want to see added, This wouldn't even make my top 10.
But, who knows? I might be in the minority on this topic. Hopefully your
message will urge others with the same concerns to contact Apple about it.
JMO.,
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Emrah <li...@kavun.ch> wrote:
Hi list,
I remember reporting this a while ago to Apple Accessibility… To no
avail.
VoiceOver users have an unavoidable privacy issue: the automatic
announcement of the caller ID of an incoming call.
It should be possible to make this optional, with the ability to manually
interrogate the screen to know who is calling.
Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller
ID is still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?
What do we have to do for Apple to take this into consideration? A
petition?
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