I don't normally get in on discussions like this, but, I'm not sure where 
someone gets the idea that he is needing medication. I personally have found 
him to be a wealth of information with his knowledge of the apple products 
discussed on this list.

Shane'

On Jun 29, 2013, at 5:19 PM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello to anyone reading this crud,
> 
> Time after time, I see Chris being a complete idiot on this list.  His 
> subject lines always reflect a border-line hysteria, when dealing with 
> momentary, hiccup, problems with his Mac &/or OSX & its various applications. 
>  Words like, "strange, weird, bizarre, maddening, crazy, & other off-the-top 
> descriptions reflect a manic personality, that seems unstable @ the very 
> least.
> 
> And now, based on an inquiry--that seems legit to me for those using Boot 
> Camp or VM Fusion--he is using distasteful language in a completely 
> off-the-chart rant/response to the originator of the NVDA post.  Without a 
> medical history, I suppose it would be inappropriate to suggest that Chris up 
> his anti depressant dosage.  But, seriously, @ what point does the moderator 
> on this list step in & say "enough!"  
> 
> I guess I could take Chris's own recommendation & filter him out of my mail 
> box.  In fact, I have considered this in the past, when seeing his posts.  I 
> must confess, I generally skip over them, as a matter of course, anyway.  
> However, this last rant is just unacceptable.  Chris states himself, that 
> he's not acting professionally in this matter & he's sure got that right.  
> While, as he states in his message that he doesn't have to act that way in 
> this environment, he could @ least act with courtesy.
> 
> Anyway, I sincerely hope that the moderator will read this & consider action 
> regarding Chris.  It's not the first time & it won't be the last.  Chris is 
> the one bad apple that sours the whole barrel.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> CJ 
> On Jun 29, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sir?  That is no? problem!
>>  
>> I will forget about you, and will set up a mail filter from now on to block 
>> every bit your incoming mail, whether directed at me or not.  Frankly, 
>> you're being very hasty and extremely disrespectful.  But, Mister 
>> Congeniality whom I've delt with on and off various lists numerous times 
>> before, may I add the mods taking my side every single time, your perfect 
>> because you're god, and you know everything.  Oh yeah, I forgot oh wize one! 
>> No one else ever! is right, everyone but you is wrong!  God damn straight I 
>> took what you said personally in your last reply.  Why shouldn't I when you 
>> were down right rude.
>>  
>> All that I initially did was asked one question about how the hell what you 
>> said was related to the mac.  I wasn't jumping down your throat, and though 
>> you clame you meant well in your first e-mail back to me, it proves you as a
>> despicable liar!  If you weren't offended at what I said, you wouldn't 
>> haveritten the things you did.  You don't have to like me, but God fucking 
>> dammit, I do! deserve dignity and respect, and if anyone on this list wants 
>> to say I'm not a Christian quote unquote, and chuck Reichel, don't you even 
>> think! about writing me telling me to God up!  People on this list're gonna 
>> learn, in a professional environment, I'd not speak as I am, but this is non 
>> CLG Productions related, thus professionalism goes out the window when you 
>> treat me this way.  Frankly, to anyone moderator or not, who feels me saying 
>> what I am is in the wrong, let me remind you of something:  This list is a 
>> macintosh Voiceover/IOS list, not! an NVDA list.  There is another list 
>> specifically for that,
>> 
>>  
>> nvda+subscr...@googlegroups.com
>>  
>> and I'm sure people there would be happy to help.  Second of all, what was 
>> nice about this other gentlemen calling me out on list, and saying he's 
>> tired of my pussy whatever comments.  I don't remember his wording, but who 
>> the hell cares!  You want my help, ask for it nicely, and you might get it, 
>> but if you sit here and trample me for one honest to goodness question, 
>> don't expect anything in return.  I don't mind you speaking your mind, Phil, 
>> no, but just as you have the right to speak your's, so do I, and that's 
>> exactly what you've forced my hand to do.  You all will learn very quickly, 
>> I can be the best friend, and most patient compassionate man you'll probably 
>> know, but you piss me off?  wheuhuhho boy! are you gonna know it!
>>  
>> Frankly, if you wanna delete my e-mails, Phil or not, go right? ahead!  
>> People like you all who do that have that right certainly, but frankly, you 
>> guys are not worth my time nor energy, so get off my case, as frankly, not 
>> only do I not wanna hear it, but frankly, I'm neither going! to listen to 
>> it, case closed!  I am done with this discussion, so don't even think! about 
>> writing me on or off list about it, as if I see one e-mail from this thread, 
>> it's getting deleted and not even opened.
>>  
>> If you wanna write me off list to express your support in my stance, go for 
>> it, but I'm telling you now, you put the word n v d A in your subject, don't 
>> then expect me to read the mail.  And, if you try faking me by an off the 
>> wall subject, believe me though I may open the mail unknowingly, as soon as 
>> I see your disguise, you'll be deleted, and forever e-mail blocked, so 
>> don't? try it!  I'm warnhing you now!  If you immature children! want my 
>> help, then straighten the hell up!  God damn! why didn't some of you get 
>> pops on the butt with a belt when you were  young.  Would a probably done 
>> you some good!
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Phil Halton
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 12:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: NVDA tutorials- NVDA Korea - English Site
>> 
>> I knew you'd take it personally Chris. Sometimes people just get sarcastic 
>> and you can't let it get to you so much. If you re-read my message, you'll 
>> perhaps see that there wasn't anything in there that should get a person so 
>> upset. I mean really, all I did is answer your question factually, then 
>> refer to myself as a gracious bugger, and ask the question, "is it okay to 
>> mention the Windows operating system here"? that wasn't a slam on you. It 
>> wasn't even directed at you personally, but was more a comment on fanaticism 
>> about mentioning Windows on Mac Lists. Frankly, I'm getting a little tired 
>> of having to pussy foot around you. Try just ignoring things that seem like 
>> personal attacks. 99 times out of 100 , they aren't, and its just something 
>> bugging you that makes them seem like they are.
>>  
>> In fact, you could start by ignoring any perceived insult or personal attack 
>> you see in this message, because there isn't any.
>>  
>> In case you want to flame me for speaking my mind, I'll let you know that 
>> I'm just going to hit the delete key when I see this message again, so it'll 
>> just be a waste of your time.
>>  
>> Try to forget me and have a nice day.
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Chris Gilland
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: NVDA tutorials- NVDA Korea - English Site
>> 
>> Well, excuse me.  As I initially said, and meant when I did… I wasn't trying 
>> to be rude, and the fact that you took it such way wasn't intended.  I only 
>> was asking how it related.  It wasn't meant as a derogatory comment.  Calm 
>> down!  I simply just didn't see the initial part of the thread, and was 
>> asking out of curiosity.  give me a break for goodness sake!
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:41 PM, "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> someone asked for NVDA tutorials, I assume for use in their Fusion install 
>>> of Windows. And, gracious bugger that I am, I complied.
>>>  
>>> Is it okay to speak the name of that other OS on this list? I know it isn't 
>>> on the other MAC list - just the mention of it will get you a stern rebuke. 
>>> That's probably why I don't bother with them anymore.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Chris Gilland
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 8:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: NVDA tutorials- NVDA Korea - English Site
>>> 
>>> Uh?  What's this gotta do with the Mac?  Not meaning to be rude, just 
>>> curious.  Did I miss something?
>>>  
>>> Chris.
>>>  
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Phil Halton
>>> To: Macvisionaries
>>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:52 AM
>>> Subject: NVDA tutorials- NVDA Korea - English Site
>>> 
>>> Here's a link to a website that has some very good tutorial podcasts on 
>>> NVDA. Don't forget to read the extensive and well-written help file that 
>>> comes with NVDA as well.
>>>  
>>> http://www.nvda-kr.org/en/
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