I personally think that CJ is right here. I rarely post here, but quite frankly i have seen minimally speaking tem times the following scenario: bounders are stepped, apology comes once in a while - sometimes ina drama novel format - and the cycle repeats itself. anyone who looks up list archives will see the cycle. how you interpret it is up to you, but dont deny it.
Mauricio On 6/29/13, shane christenson <ksha...@att.net> wrote: > I don't normally get in on discussions like this, but, I'm not sure where > someone gets the idea that he is needing medication. I personally have found > him to be a wealth of information with his knowledge of the apple products > discussed on this list. > > Shane' > > On Jun 29, 2013, at 5:19 PM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello to anyone reading this crud, >> >> Time after time, I see Chris being a complete idiot on this list. His >> subject lines always reflect a border-line hysteria, when dealing with >> momentary, hiccup, problems with his Mac &/or OSX & its various >> applications. Words like, "strange, weird, bizarre, maddening, crazy, & >> other off-the-top descriptions reflect a manic personality, that seems >> unstable @ the very least. >> >> And now, based on an inquiry--that seems legit to me for those using Boot >> Camp or VM Fusion--he is using distasteful language in a completely >> off-the-chart rant/response to the originator of the NVDA post. Without a >> medical history, I suppose it would be inappropriate to suggest that Chris >> up his anti depressant dosage. But, seriously, @ what point does the >> moderator on this list step in & say "enough!" >> >> I guess I could take Chris's own recommendation & filter him out of my >> mail box. In fact, I have considered this in the past, when seeing his >> posts. I must confess, I generally skip over them, as a matter of course, >> anyway. However, this last rant is just unacceptable. Chris states >> himself, that he's not acting professionally in this matter & he's sure >> got that right. While, as he states in his message that he doesn't have >> to act that way in this environment, he could @ least act with courtesy. >> >> Anyway, I sincerely hope that the moderator will read this & consider >> action regarding Chris. It's not the first time & it won't be the last. >> Chris is the one bad apple that sours the whole barrel. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> CJ >> On Jun 29, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Sir? That is no? problem! >>> >>> I will forget about you, and will set up a mail filter from now on to >>> block every bit your incoming mail, whether directed at me or not. >>> Frankly, you're being very hasty and extremely disrespectful. But, >>> Mister Congeniality whom I've delt with on and off various lists numerous >>> times before, may I add the mods taking my side every single time, your >>> perfect because you're god, and you know everything. Oh yeah, I forgot >>> oh wize one! No one else ever! is right, everyone but you is wrong! God >>> damn straight I took what you said personally in your last reply. Why >>> shouldn't I when you were down right rude. >>> >>> All that I initially did was asked one question about how the hell what >>> you said was related to the mac. I wasn't jumping down your throat, and >>> though you clame you meant well in your first e-mail back to me, it >>> proves you as a >>> despicable liar! If you weren't offended at what I said, you wouldn't >>> haveritten the things you did. You don't have to like me, but God >>> fucking dammit, I do! deserve dignity and respect, and if anyone on this >>> list wants to say I'm not a Christian quote unquote, and chuck Reichel, >>> don't you even think! about writing me telling me to God up! People on >>> this list're gonna learn, in a professional environment, I'd not speak as >>> I am, but this is non CLG Productions related, thus professionalism goes >>> out the window when you treat me this way. Frankly, to anyone moderator >>> or not, who feels me saying what I am is in the wrong, let me remind you >>> of something: This list is a macintosh Voiceover/IOS list, not! an NVDA >>> list. There is another list specifically for that, >>> >>> >>> nvda+subscr...@googlegroups.com >>> >>> and I'm sure people there would be happy to help. Second of all, what >>> was nice about this other gentlemen calling me out on list, and saying >>> he's tired of my pussy whatever comments. I don't remember his wording, >>> but who the hell cares! You want my help, ask for it nicely, and you >>> might get it, but if you sit here and trample me for one honest to >>> goodness question, don't expect anything in return. I don't mind you >>> speaking your mind, Phil, no, but just as you have the right to speak >>> your's, so do I, and that's exactly what you've forced my hand to do. >>> You all will learn very quickly, I can be the best friend, and most >>> patient compassionate man you'll probably know, but you piss me off? >>> wheuhuhho boy! are you gonna know it! >>> >>> Frankly, if you wanna delete my e-mails, Phil or not, go right? ahead! >>> People like you all who do that have that right certainly, but frankly, >>> you guys are not worth my time nor energy, so get off my case, as >>> frankly, not only do I not wanna hear it, but frankly, I'm neither going! >>> to listen to it, case closed! I am done with this discussion, so don't >>> even think! about writing me on or off list about it, as if I see one >>> e-mail from this thread, it's getting deleted and not even opened. >>> >>> If you wanna write me off list to express your support in my stance, go >>> for it, but I'm telling you now, you put the word n v d A in your >>> subject, don't then expect me to read the mail. And, if you try faking >>> me by an off the wall subject, believe me though I may open the mail >>> unknowingly, as soon as I see your disguise, you'll be deleted, and >>> forever e-mail blocked, so don't? try it! I'm warnhing you now! If you >>> immature children! want my help, then straighten the hell up! God damn! >>> why didn't some of you get pops on the butt with a belt when you were >>> young. Would a probably done you some good! >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Phil Halton >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 12:30 PM >>> Subject: Re: NVDA tutorials- NVDA Korea - English Site >>> >>> I knew you'd take it personally Chris. Sometimes people just get >>> sarcastic and you can't let it get to you so much. If you re-read my >>> message, you'll perhaps see that there wasn't anything in there that >>> should get a person so upset. I mean really, all I did is answer your >>> question factually, then refer to myself as a gracious bugger, and ask >>> the question, "is it okay to mention the Windows operating system here"? >>> that wasn't a slam on you. It wasn't even directed at you personally, but >>> was more a comment on fanaticism about mentioning Windows on Mac Lists. >>> Frankly, I'm getting a little tired of having to pussy foot around you. >>> Try just ignoring things that seem like personal attacks. 99 times out of >>> 100 , they aren't, and its just something bugging you that makes them >>> seem like they are. >>> >>> In fact, you could start by ignoring any perceived insult or personal >>> attack you see in this message, because there isn't any. >>> >>> In case you want to flame me for speaking my mind, I'll let you know that >>> I'm just going to hit the delete key when I see this message again, so >>> it'll just be a waste of your time. >>> >>> Try to forget me and have a nice day. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Chris Gilland >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: NVDA tutorials- NVDA Korea - English Site >>> >>> Well, excuse me. As I initially said, and meant when I did… I wasn't >>> trying to be rude, and the fact that you took it such way wasn't >>> intended. I only was asking how it related. It wasn't meant as a >>> derogatory comment. Calm down! I simply just didn't see the initial >>> part of the thread, and was asking out of curiosity. give me a break for >>> goodness sake! >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:41 PM, "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> someone asked for NVDA tutorials, I assume for use in their Fusion >>>> install of Windows. And, gracious bugger that I am, I complied. >>>> >>>> Is it okay to speak the name of that other OS on this list? I know it >>>> isn't on the other MAC list - just the mention of it will get you a >>>> stern rebuke. That's probably why I don't bother with them anymore. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Chris Gilland >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 8:56 PM >>>> Subject: Re: NVDA tutorials- NVDA Korea - English Site >>>> >>>> Uh? What's this gotta do with the Mac? Not meaning to be rude, just >>>> curious. Did I miss something? >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Phil Halton >>>> To: Macvisionaries >>>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:52 AM >>>> Subject: NVDA tutorials- NVDA Korea - English Site >>>> >>>> Here's a link to a website that has some very good tutorial podcasts on >>>> NVDA. 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