Did you read his last post?  The med thing was a joke, sort of…meaning maybe 
it's not a bad idea. 


Anyway, maybe our standards are very different,

CJ


On Jun 29, 2013, at 4:02 PM, shane christenson <ksha...@att.net> wrote:

> I don't normally get in on discussions like this, but, I'm not sure where 
> someone gets the idea that he is needing medication. I personally have found 
> him to be a wealth of information with his knowledge of the apple products 
> discussed on this list.
> 
> Shane'
> 
> On Jun 29, 2013, at 5:19 PM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello to anyone reading this crud,
>> 
>> Time after time, I see Chris being a complete idiot on this list.  His 
>> subject lines always reflect a border-line hysteria, when dealing with 
>> momentary, hiccup, problems with his Mac &/or OSX & its various 
>> applications.  Words like, "strange, weird, bizarre, maddening, crazy, & 
>> other off-the-top descriptions reflect a manic personality, that seems 
>> unstable @ the very least.
>> 
>> And now, based on an inquiry--that seems legit to me for those using Boot 
>> Camp or VM Fusion--he is using distasteful language in a completely 
>> off-the-chart rant/response to the originator of the NVDA post.  Without a 
>> medical history, I suppose it would be inappropriate to suggest that Chris 
>> up his anti depressant dosage.  But, seriously, @ what point does the 
>> moderator on this list step in & say "enough!"  
>> 
>> I guess I could take Chris's own recommendation & filter him out of my mail 
>> box.  In fact, I have considered this in the past, when seeing his posts.  I 
>> must confess, I generally skip over them, as a matter of course, anyway.  
>> However, this last rant is just unacceptable.  Chris states himself, that 
>> he's not acting professionally in this matter & he's sure got that right.  
>> While, as he states in his message that he doesn't have to act that way in 
>> this environment, he could @ least act with courtesy.
>> 
>> Anyway, I sincerely hope that the moderator will read this & consider action 
>> regarding Chris.  It's not the first time & it won't be the last.  Chris is 
>> the one bad apple that sours the whole barrel.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> CJ 
>> On Jun 29, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sir?  That is no? problem!
>>>  
>>> I will forget about you, and will set up a mail filter from now on to block 
>>> every bit your incoming mail, whether directed at me or not.  Frankly, 
>>> you're being very hasty and extremely disrespectful.  But, Mister 
>>> Congeniality whom I've delt with on and off various lists numerous times 
>>> before, may I add the mods taking my side every single time, your perfect 
>>> because you're god, and you know everything.  Oh yeah, I forgot oh wize 
>>> one! No one else ever! is right, everyone but you is wrong!  God damn 
>>> straight I took what you said personally in your last reply.  Why shouldn't 
>>> I when you were down right rude.
>>>  
>>> All that I initially did was asked one question about how the hell what you 
>>> said was related to the mac.  I wasn't jumping down your throat, and though 
>>> you clame you meant well in your first e-mail back to me, it proves you as a
>>> despicable liar!  If you weren't offended at what I said, you wouldn't 
>>> haveritten the things you did.  You don't have to like me, but God fucking 
>>> dammit, I do! deserve dignity and respect, and if anyone on this list wants 
>>> to say I'm not a Christian quote unquote, and chuck Reichel, don't you even 
>>> think! about writing me telling me to God up!  People on this list're gonna 
>>> learn, in a professional environment, I'd not speak as I am, but this is 
>>> non CLG Productions related, thus professionalism goes out the window when 
>>> you treat me this way.  Frankly, to anyone moderator or not, who feels me 
>>> saying what I am is in the wrong, let me remind you of something:  This 
>>> list is a macintosh Voiceover/IOS list, not! an NVDA list.  There is 
>>> another list specifically for that,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> nvda+subscr...@googlegroups.com
>>>  
>>> and I'm sure people there would be happy to help.  Second of all, what was 
>>> nice about this other gentlemen calling me out on list, and saying he's 
>>> tired of my pussy whatever comments.  I don't remember his wording, but who 
>>> the hell cares!  You want my help, ask for it nicely, and you might get it, 
>>> but if you sit here and trample me for one honest to goodness question, 
>>> don't expect anything in return.  I don't mind you speaking your mind, 
>>> Phil, no, but just as you have the right to speak your's, so do I, and 
>>> that's exactly what you've forced my hand to do.  You all will learn very 
>>> quickly, I can be the best friend, and most patient compassionate man 
>>> you'll probably know, but you piss me off?  wheuhuhho boy! are you gonna 
>>> know it!
>>>  
>>> Frankly, if you wanna delete my e-mails, Phil or not, go right? ahead!  
>>> People like you all who do that have that right certainly, but frankly, you 
>>> guys are not worth my time nor energy, so get off my case, as frankly, not 
>>> only do I not wanna hear it, but frankly, I'm neither going! to listen to 
>>> it, case closed!  I am done with this discussion, so don't even think! 
>>> about writing me on or off list about it, as if I see one e-mail from this 
>>> thread, it's getting deleted and not even opened.
>>>  
>>> If you wanna write me off list to express your support in my stance, go for 
>>> it, but I'm telling you now, you put the word n v d A in your subject, 
>>> don't then expect me to read the mail.  And, if you try faking me by an off 
>>> the wall subject, believe me though I may open the mail unknowingly, as 
>>> soon as I see your disguise, you'll be deleted, and forever e-mail blocked, 
>>> so don't? try it!  I'm warnhing you now!  If you immature children! want my 
>>> help, then straighten the hell up!  God damn! why didn't some of you get 
>>> pops on the butt with a belt when you were young.  Would a probably done 
>>> you some good!
>>>  
>>> Chris.
>>>  
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Phil Halton
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 12:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: NVDA tutorials- NVDA Korea - English Site
>>> 
>>> I knew you'd take it personally Chris. Sometimes people just get sarcastic 
>>> and you can't let it get to you so much. If you re-read my message, you'll 
>>> perhaps see that there wasn't anything in there that should get a person so 
>>> upset. I mean really, all I did is answer your question factually, then 
>>> refer to myself as a gracious bugger, and ask the question, "is it okay to 
>>> mention the Windows operating system here"? that wasn't a slam on you. It 
>>> wasn't even directed at you personally, but was more a comment on 
>>> fanaticism about mentioning Windows on Mac Lists. Frankly, I'm getting a 
>>> little tired of having to pussy foot around you. Try just ignoring things 
>>> that seem like personal attacks. 99 times out of 100 , they aren't, and its 
>>> just something bugging you that makes them seem like they are.
>>>  
>>> In fact, you could start by ignoring any perceived insult or personal 
>>> attack you see in this message, because there isn't any.
>>>  
>>> In case you want to flame me for speaking my mind, I'll let you know that 
>>> I'm just going to hit the delete key when I see this message again, so 
>>> it'll just be a waste of your time.
>>>  
>>> Try to forget me and have a nice day.
>>>  
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Chris Gilland
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: NVDA tutorials- NVDA Korea - English Site
>>> 
>>> Well, excuse me.  As I initially said, and meant when I did… I wasn't 
>>> trying to be rude, and the fact that you took it such way wasn't intended.  
>>> I only was asking how it related.  It wasn't meant as a derogatory comment. 
>>>  Calm down!  I simply just didn't see the initial part of the thread, and 
>>> was asking out of curiosity.  give me a break for goodness sake!
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:41 PM, "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> someone asked for NVDA tutorials, I assume for use in their Fusion install 
>>>> of Windows. And, gracious bugger that I am, I complied.
>>>>  
>>>> Is it okay to speak the name of that other OS on this list? I know it 
>>>> isn't on the other MAC list - just the mention of it will get you a stern 
>>>> rebuke. That's probably why I don't bother with them anymore.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Chris Gilland
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 8:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: NVDA tutorials- NVDA Korea - English Site
>>>> 
>>>> Uh?  What's this gotta do with the Mac?  Not meaning to be rude, just 
>>>> curious.  Did I miss something?
>>>>  
>>>> Chris.
>>>>  
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Phil Halton
>>>> To: Macvisionaries
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:52 AM
>>>> Subject: NVDA tutorials- NVDA Korea - English Site
>>>> 
>>>> Here's a link to a website that has some very good tutorial podcasts on 
>>>> NVDA. Don't forget to read the extensive and well-written help file that 
>>>> comes with NVDA as well.
>>>>  
>>>> http://www.nvda-kr.org/en/
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