By turning it off, and then re-opening everything, I restart at the beginning, instead of stuck in a toolbar that I don't how to get out of. I have to know where it will start each time, so I can make notes, and be able to use it the next time.
Perhaps tomorrow, my husband can listen to the hard rock music if I call the Apple number, and maybe they'll have someone who at least knows how to get out of the menu bar. The last couple of people I spoke to, didn't know how to turn it on, much less use it. I don't want to leave it on all the time, it beeps constantly, especially if typing in a Pages document. That day may come. For now, 30 minutes of "training" a day is plenty. On Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:16:59 PM UTC-5, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > But April, by turning Voice OVer on and off, you are not doing what you > think you are doing. There is no starting at the beginning with Voice > Over. Just leave it on. How else do you expect to learn it? > > For more, I’d go to: > www.applevis.com > and also, > www.icanworkthisthing.com > > YOu simply must learn to develope confidence with the system: and, > framkly, beeing spoonfed everything all the time is a lousey way to do > that. Don’t try to learn everything at once because it ain’t gonna happen. > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:34 PM, April Brown <aprilbr...@gmail.com<javascript:>> > wrote: > > The reason for turning VoiceOver off is to clear it, so when I open it > back up, it will be back at the beginning, and maybe I can manage to figure > out the steps to opening a web page from the bookmarks. I know it's > incorrect. I haven't found directions anywhere. I just have multiple > lists of commands, and no idea what order to put them in. It's a giant > jigsaw puzzle. I try what you suggest. > > Thanks, > > April > . > > On Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:29:48 PM UTC-5, Ray Foret jr wrote: >> >> April, >> >> First, you are needlessly making far too much work for yourself all for >> nothing. Why do you insist you must turn Voice OVer off every time you get >> out of Safari. This is quite frankly, unnecessary. Also, the procedure >> you are using to try to open bookmarks is completely incorrect. >> >> First, leave Voice OVer on. DO, NOT, turn it off. >> >> Here’s how to get in to book marks. >> >> 1. Open Safari. >> >> 2. Now, press VO+m to open the menu structure. >> >> 3. Now, press b for book marks. >> >> 4. Now, arrow down in to this menu, and, when ever you hear a book mark >> folder you want to get in to, press right arrow to expand it. >> >> Want to edit your book Marks? >> >> Do this. >> >> 1. Open safari. >> >> 2. Press Cmd+Option+b. That gets you in to the edit book marks window. >> >> You should know enough by now to take it from there. >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:21 PM, April Brown <aprilbr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I opened Safari. >> I turned VoiceOver on. >> After a dozen tries, I managed to get it onto the Bookmarks. >> Somehow, as I was transferring my notes to a Pages document, it crashed, >> and a low, low, grumbling male voice started speaking. >> >> I turned off VoiceOver, closed Safari, and tried again. >> >> Another dozen tries, and I never did get it back on the Bookmarks bar to >> an actual bookmark. The one time I did, it wouldn't click on it, it >> highlighted and wanted to change it. Huh? >> >> So, I closed and turned it all off again. >> >> Then, I opened Safari back up. Opened up a web page, and turned >> VoiceOver back on. Again it got stuck in the menu, and would not get to >> content. At least, unlike in Firefox, I can click on the region I need >> read to me, and it will then work. >> >> That's my 30 minutes of trying to open a webpage today. >> >> Back to writing. >> >> And you wonder why I need step by step directions, and not just a random >> list. >> >> So far, to get it on Safari, I have: >> Step 1: Open Safari >> Step 2: Command, F5 to start VoiceOver >> Step 1: Control, Option, Down arrow from the menu to the bookmarks. And >> yet it doesn't quiet work, as it doesn't go the list of bookmarks. 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