On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 21:10 +0100, Maarten Vanraes wrote: > Op maandag 28 november 2011 14:40:34 schreef Michael Scherer: > [...] > > There is several pragmatic reasons for that and, there is also some long > > term harm by shipping more and more proprietary software like : > [...] > > Personally, I aim for better stuff than fragile unsustainable hacks like > > this. And we should not start to settle on lower standards, especially > > if forced to us by non cooperative company or group. One could be > > tolerable. Two, likely. More, that's starting to generalize, and that's > > just sending the wrong signal to the whole community, and saying to > > company "it is ok to treat us like parias". It is hard to be credible > > when saying "we want to provides a solid system" and in the same time, > > do the contrary. > > > > I doubt we will be able to bring real long term credibility and a > > reputation for quality if we go this way. People can just compare Ubuntu > > reputation to Debian one, and see which one was able to survive without > > spending million of dollars each year. And also which one serve as a > > base for the other. > > You touch some interesting points here, and I appreciate you here explaining > your personal opinion, I'm beginning to see more clearly your reasoning in > the > past, and my own reasoning. I believe i may have to review my own pov here... > > +1
I also see some of the valid points, but bottom line - is that Mageia should help create working packages for the bigger ticket items (like Skype) - in a cooperative spirit. We are not proposing that such packages be included in the ISOs - just available in a repository which we can trust and know that it works . . That's all we ask for . . Cheers, R.Fox