On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 13:48, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:

> And the only way to make THEM fix their damned systems to not bounce 
> stuff that shouldn't bounce is to make it a visible problem to them. 
> You don't do that by "fixing" mailman. Unfortunately, it'll cause some 
> pain for users, but my feeling is, if their stuff is bouncing and they 
> odn't realize it, that's a bigger problem they SHOULD be warned about,a 
> nyway.

BTW, with MM2.1.5, users will have more knowledge at their disposal to
complain to their ISPs because the probe message will contain the last
bounce we received for them.  So if it's a warning that's causing them
to get disabled (or to get the probe), they'll know it.

-Barry



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