On 9/17/20 8:04 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 07:54 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>>
>> Forward to where?
> 
> Oh the irony of you asking that question. :)  If we go back a year,
> there were STARK warnings about the EOL of mm2.  Blatant EOL warnings. 
> To me, a "path forward" is a way past that, a continued L(ife) with
> something that people know, and something that meets their needs.


The EOL notices were clarified to mean "no new features" I committed to
continue to fix critical bugs and security issues going forward.

If Mailman 2.1 meets their needs now, why won't it continue to do so as
it is? (Aside: I still sometimes use Adobe Reader 9 for Linux on my
desktop even though it has been unsupported and unavailable from Adobe
for years.)


> Flipping the coin around, make the actual written case, an "elevator
> pitch" if you will, for some entity like NANOG or MAILOP to migrate to
> mm3 this weekend.  Let's see what that looks like.


I'm not sure what the point of this is. According to
<https://www.mailop.org/about/>, MAILOP is already on Mailman 3.

It appears NANOG has only 3 public Mailman 2.1 lists and only one has
archives pre-dating MM 2.1 which could require attention before
importing to HyperKitty. So list migration via `mailman import21` and
`django-admin hyperkitty_import` should be straightforward.

I guess you are saying that step 1, "First install Mailman 3" would be
the sticking point, but this is the same whether you are NANOG or
mail.python.org or tiny site with one list, and it has been accomplished
multiple times by multiple people. I've documented my experience at
<https://wiki.list.org/x/17891998>. Brian's take is at
<https://wiki.list.org/x/17892066>.

-- 
Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
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