On 2022-10-18 15:37, Mark Sapiro wrote:

# cat /lib/systemd/system/mailman.service
PIDFile=/var/run/mailman/mailman.pid

Try changing that to

PIDFile=/var/lib/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid



Super! That did the job.

#PIDFile=/var/run/mailman/mailman.pid
PIDFile=/var/lib/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid
...

# service mailman stop
Warning: The unit file, source configuration file or drop-ins of 
mailman.service changed on disk. Run 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload units.

# systemctl daemon-reload
# service mailman stop
# service mailman start

# pstree
///////// MAILMAN RUNNING
# ps -fwwu list
///////// ALL RUNNERS RUNNING

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/var/run is typically a symlink to /run, but 
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/message/OOVT765SIUYN5U3X3HGO3YNAMFJW7NHY/
 says you couldn't find a `mailman.pid` anywhere.

Yes. For "mailman.pid" nothing is found with either "find" or "locate".

For "master-qrunner.pid" -- no problem ...

# locate master-qrunner.pid
/var/lib/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid

# find / -type f -iname "master-qrunner.pid"
/var/lib/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid


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