> On 14 Dec 2015, at 08:06, David Hofstee <da...@mailplus.nl> wrote: > > I am not confusing them. That would be weird. > > I am saying, to Brandon FWIW, that their users may be a little bit like our > customers (ie often not technical).
But Brandon works for Google. The subject of this thread is "Delivery to Gmail". It isn’t about his customers, and it isn’t about emails to end users at all. It’s about how Google respond with an SMTP reject, in the SMTP conversation, to a particular temporary DNS error. Some of us would prefer that they used a defer instead. > Bounces could be reduced to three simple messages: > - Ingore this > - The mail didn’t arrive > - The email address doesn’t work (any more) > > > David > Van: Franck Martin [mailto:fmar...@linkedin.com] > Verzonden: vrijdag 11 december 2015 18:14 > Aan: David Hofstee > CC: mailop@mailop.org > Onderwerp: Re: [mailop] Delivery to gmail via IPv6 > > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:59 AM, David Hofstee <da...@mailplus.nl> wrote: > That’s why, in ESP parlance, there are two sorts of bounces, to keep it > simple: > - Hardbounces: The recipient address does not work. Contact through > other means. > > - Softbounces: This email did not arrive. Try again later or contact > through other means. If this keeps happening the address effectively does > not work. > > > You are confusing Hard/Soft bounces with Permanent/Temporary failures. > > So far we have been talking about Temporary failures, that eventually become > permanent failure (could not send this email after x days), which inidicates > a bounce, usually a soft one. > > > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop -- Ian Eiloart Postmaster, University of Sussex +44 (0) 1273 87-3148 _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
