On 7 August 2017 at 17:27, Aaron C. de Bruyn <aa...@heyaaron.com> wrote: > It exists: http://rfc-clueless.org/ :)
I confirm it doesn't work: http://rfc-clueless.org/lookup/alice.it I submitted it to the postmaster last time I didn't get an answer... it shown as pending for a while and then disappeared. Still I have to find someone that ever received an answer after writing to their postmaster@ address. Stefano -- Stefano Bagnara Apache James/jDKIM/jSPF VOXmail/Mosaico.io/VoidLabs > > -A > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Stefano Bagnara <mai...@bago.org> wrote: >> Hi Lindani, >> >> we're an italian ESP and we never had success contacting Alice.it postmaster. >> Alice.it is the freemail domain of the biggest telecom operator in >> italy (Telecom Italia, now named TIM). >> >> We never had major deliverability issues (blocks/junking) there, but >> sometimes their server are very slow (don't know if it is throttling >> or simply overload) and queues get very big (last time was the past >> february and lasted a couple of weeks). We use a very very high >> timeout for them (20 minutes, instead of 2 minutes we use for everyone >> else) because we experienced double deliveries due to timeout on our >> side after the ending DATA "." (the very point the RFC says the server >> should try to answer as fast as possible to avoid double delivery). >> >> Once (a couple of years ago) I also tried contacting them because of a >> bad vulnerability in their webmail but I received no answers to that >> too... >> >> I also have friends buying servers from Telecom Italia (so they are >> customers) and they also had no success getting in touch with a >> postmaster for alice.it . >> >> Maybe there should be a dnsbl for domains /dev/nulling postmaster@ >> address and not only for the one not accepting postmaster/abuse >> recipient ;-) >> >> You may want to try >> postmaster@(alice.it|aliceposta.it|tim.it|telecom.it|telecomitalia.com|retail.telecomitalia.it) >> >> With abuses you may want to try >> ab...@retail.telecomitalia.it >> ab...@telecomitalia.it >> >> and the only one that ever answered an email to us (a lot of years ago): >> staff...@telecomitalia.it >> >> Their only known interactive communication channel is twitter: >> @tim_official ... maybe you will have success tweeting them in >> "public". >> >> Good luck and let us know how it goes. >> >> Stefano >> >> -- >> Stefano Bagnara >> Apache James/jDKIM/jSPF >> VOXmail/Mosaico.io/VoidLabs >> >> >> On 2 August 2017 at 16:10, Lindani Tshabangu via mailop >> <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Anyone who can assist with a contact at Alice.it or point me to where I can >>> get one? >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> ____________________ >>> >>> Lindani Tshabangu >>> Deliverability EMEA | GROUPON >>> >>> ltshaba...@groupon.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mailop mailing list >> mailop@mailop.org >> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop