On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:51 PM John Levine via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
>
> People do use them as part of a scoring spam filter.  But no sensible person
> uses SPF alone to do mail filtering.

Nobody should, but some do. Whether or not it's sensible, it's
something that some people deal with.

> The fact that SPF can't handle forwarded mail is a failure of SPF, not
> a bug in forwarding.

It doesn't matter if it's a failure of SPF or not. SPF is something
one has to deal with if one wants to get as much of the mail delivered
as possible.

> Uh, no. I have lots of users with role accounts who read their mail at
> gmail.  Forwarding is as useful as it ever was, even though it is ever
> harder to to do successfully.

ITYM "harder to do it the old way successfully." Pull instead of push,
or use SRS or other header rewriting and don't try to stretch a
domain's SPF accountability beyond the IPs they publish, and it
actually isn't that hard. Heck, I SMTP auth relay my role account mail
into Gmail to bypass all of that and it works just fine.

Email forwarding itself isn't bad, we agree. External old school
dot-forwarding is outdated and too prone to failure. Tilt at that
windmill all you want, but that doesn't really change anything.

Cheers,
Al Iverson



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