Thankfully most who run lists have morals :)
Something you'd think Google would have, but perhaps its relies on the
fact certain dnsbl's have made it known to the big boys they wont be
listed, luckily not all think that way, funnny this I'm sure this is a
no no in the USA, perhaps not it seems.
Even if the law of the land does not require it, it is the right thing
to do in being a good netizen.
On 17/06/2022 15:24, Mark Foster wrote:
On 17/06/2022 3:46 pm, Noel Butler via mailop wrote:
On 17/06/2022 05:55, Brandon Long via mailop wrote:
You should get a welcome message when a user direct subscribes you to a
group that should have an unsubscribe link in it. The welcome message
part of the flow that the group manager can set should be added to that
message.
What the F, no confirmation?
if anyone adds me to any group and I do NOT get an email asking for
confirmation - like the LAW in some countries requires (Australian law
in my case), google will be treated like every other UBE sender,
_blocked_ and the regulator will be notified, as this is a breach of
the Spam Act in this country and as google has Australian offices the
ACMA has jurisdiction to prosecute them.
I'd concur with your action should it occur, but it's not uncommon...
Mailman Mass Subscription offers you the ability to do the same thing:
(screenshot):
Above are my instance's default settings but I could select 'No' for
welcome message and directly subscribe someone to one of my lists. I've
actually done so, when migrating a mailing list between hosts. With
consent, is the main element (and here in New Zealand, I imagine the
legal constraints are much like Australia's).
Turns out I still have admin rights to a Google Group, so I had a look,
here's the relevant dialogue for adding people: (screenshot):
... so the bad guy has deliberately selected 'directly add members',
which is valid functionality. The act of doing so without consent is
what makes it illegal.
Good luck prosecuting :(
Does Google have the ability to at least 'score' groups (and their
owners actions) based on negative reports ?
Not that it takes much to register another junk gmail.com address
anonymously and start again I suppose...
Mark.
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