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Thank you Carroll and a belated happy 80 to you. You are right on about religion. Though the trouble with having been an Irish Catholic one is, I sometimes think, doomed to a life time of angst. Having said that I agree with you that when things turn, and turn they will, the movement that emerges will be like my old mother's Xmas puddings - full of good things and all got together in a sort of strange way. I look forward to that time wh3en a whole new generation of problems and opportunities emerges and a lot of the things we worry about now will have been swept away. comradely regards Gary ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com