> On Jun 1, 2024, at 4:29 PM, Tom Walker via groups.io
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Marx never renounced revolution. He did, however, repeatedly insist on a
> prerequisite, a precondition: the substantial reduction of the hours of wage
> labour. The rationale for that precondition can be found in Marx's discussion
> of disposable time in the Grundrisse.
I don't understand, Tom, why reduction of wage labor is a precondition to
social revolution. It sounds like a conundrum.
>
> One of the cornerstones of the classical or traditional interpretation of
> Marx comes from his preface to A Contribution to the Critique of Political
> Economy -- his discussion there of the forces and relations of production and
> of the era of social revolution that begins when the relations become fetters
> on the development of the forces.
Fetters, relations of production, and productive forces features prominently in
Saito's book that you cite: Saito thought that Marx later abandoned the 1859
quote and was left bereft of a methodology. I don't remember Huber addressing
this topic in _Climate Change and Class War_ so directly and can't find it in
my copy. But if I did find it, I expect that Huber and Saito would end up on
different sides of the issue. I would expect Huber to champion the
productivist (or "promethean") interpretation of Marx's quote.
I see two different strategies unfolding on the left between productivist and
non-productivist strategies that are manifested in different demands to either
produce a new energy grid and new commodities to use it versus reducing
commodity production in overdeveloped countries like US and Europe. The latter
is expressed as a reduction in wage-labor hours.
thanks, Mark
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