gojko, my only quibble is that Marx did obviously want to CHANGE the world --- but before he could work on changing the world, he had to UNDERSTAND it --- he spent his WHOLE LIFE attempting to understand it --
I think that a lot of these discussions DO help us understand the world --- we (especially us oldsters) may not be very relevant to the fight (we can write postcards, make phone calls and give money ....) but it still helps to understand the world a bit better tomorrow than we did today -- My $.04 (inflation you know!) On Fri, Sep 6, 2024 at 10:51 PM gojko rakic via groups.io <gojkor= [email protected]> wrote: > some general remarks regarding Trotskyist Lenists Marxist positions > " > I joined this group ages ago, largely because my worldview still clings to > Marxism. Not because I’m particularly well-versed in ideology, but simply > because it's the only one I’ve somewhat grasped after following it for > nearly 60 years. I haven’t exactly made the effort to explore anything else > in depth. I’m also quite aware that modern Marxists have essentially > devolved into a discussion club—a cozy space where they swap opinions, read > each other's books, and remain utterly irrelevant to the political > happenings around them, with no real hope of influencing the future. Their > analyses? Fascinating, sure—but only to themselves and maybe one or two > others. > The disputes between Marxists, Trotskyists, and Leninists? Frankly, I find > them amusing. They carry no real importance or weight. > As for me, I’ll keep reading Marxist analyses because that’s where I’m > most comfortable, and the way of thinking feels familiar. Those analyses > may even be correct, but I’m under no illusion—they hold no sway over > reality. Even Marx himself once said he wasn’t a Marxist, likely frustrated > with the so-called 'Marxists' around him who missed the point. His most > famous statement was that 'philosophers have only interpreted the world in > various ways; the point is to change it.' And yet, here we are—no real > political movement, just discussion clubs exchanging opinions. > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#32079): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/32079 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/108305074/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
