I will respond to Steven's interesting post. First off, one of the *failures* 
of Marx and Engels, IMO, when talking about "free trade" is that they didn't 
examine it enough. Most importantly, they didn't examine the role of tariffs 
from the Federalists support for them through Lincoln's increase on reliance on 
them. I would of liked to see them focus more of their attention on the U.S. 
Just wanted to say that.

Secondly, while all trade wars deploy tariffs, not all tariffs are a trade war. 
Tariffs, implemented by Hamilton in his nation-building question, imposed I 
think it was, an approx. 4% tariff on all imported goods, meaning those 
imported from France, the UK, and the Nederlands. Just enough for "Americans" 
to not want to pay the tariff if now U.S. goods were slightly cheaper. They 
actually did want Americans to continue to purchase European goods otherwise 
they couldn't finance the huge debt accumulated by the new government and state 
but not so much as to inhibit domestic production. And for more than a hundred 
years that is how the U.S. economy developed (on the backs of slavery in the 
south of course, but also rising industrial capital in the north).

Some of the original Trump tariffs on, say, something like aluminum imports, 
mostly from Canada, actually have worked. They didn't significantly increase 
costs and more domestic aluminum manufacturing investment increased. There are 
probably other examples of this. Tariffs, in order to work, have to be small 
not large or the impacts negatively on the capitalist economy.

There are other forms of economic regulation that are also interesting, like 
the quota system where strict import quantities are imposed. Say a foreign 
automaker can only import x amount of automobiles..unless they build an 
assembly plant in the U.S. where they than can import more cars as production 
from the factory increases. Trump is actually calling for more manufactures to 
*export* their capital to the U.S. in order to do this. I'd like to see more 
discussion around these points.

David


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