On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 08:19 PM, Charles wrote:

> 
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 02:12 PM, Marv Gandall wrote:
> 
>> It’s self-evident that millions of workers, peasants, and intellectuals
>> would not have mobilized unless they believed that capitalism had outlived
>> its historic role and that its global overthrow was now on the agenda.
> 
> You still present no evidence that such was their belief. They may just as
> well have acted... without being sure where it might all settle out."
> 

The stirring first line of the Internationale could have been amended to " 
maybe 'tis the final conflict" to reflect this ostensible uncertainty, but I 
don't think it would have roused the masses in quite the same way.


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