I agree with Mark, but this thread should be retitled to reflect that we were 
more generally asked to consider whether there might be a superior form of 
organization than the  democratic centralist model to meet the challenges in a 
modern capitalist society,  particularly if we were to enter into another 
revolutionary crisis.

I suggested that only a centralized and highly disciplined party such as Lenin 
proposed and organized has overthrown capitalism. The only alternative models 
are the anarchist and the social democratic but neither electoral politics, nor 
the mass strike and other forms of direct action, nor individual or small group 
terrorism have had similar success. Though deeply divided on strategy,  
anarchists and social democrats share a common criticism of the Leninist model 
as inherently authoritarian - "the dictatorship of the party, then of the 
bureaucracy, then of a single individual.”

But how much repression is of necessity and how much of choice? How else to 
confront a repressive capitalist regime which will never permit a peaceful 
takeover of the system and the expropriation of its propertied classes?

Elements of both are at play. The Bolsheviks found it necessary in conditions 
of civil war and revolution to conscript labour, ban factions, and to meet 
white terror with red terror against civilian collaborators of the 
counter-revolutionary armies. Following the civil war, the Soviet Union was 
still encircled by capitalist powers bent on its destruction. Without reopening 
the debate, I’m of the view that the repression was more a matter of necessity 
during the civil war, and more a matter of choice, directed at political rivals 
within the party following Lenin’s incapacity and death, which reached its peak 
during Stalin’s Great Purge.

I also noted that the social revolutions which overthrew capitalism were all in 
predominantly peasant societies, and that in the US and other more advanced 
societies a  party of dedicated and disciplined revolutionaries would still be 
required to confront a repressive state and right-wing militias in bidding for 
power  But would the higher level of economic and cultural development, 
including a long history of bourgeois democratic ideology and institutions, 
decisively mitigate the deformations which plagued the 20th century revolutions?

We can only speculate.


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