On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 10:30:13PM -0400, Scott Holder wrote:
> Incidentally, Linux has been my primary desktop OS for almost a year 
> now.

I have been using Unix for almost ten years now, and would have
trouble living with out it.  That doesn't mean that I would suggest
that any old Joe would want to use it.  Unix systems are designe
for people who have a system administrator or who like doing things
for themself.

> My personal opinion is Linux is ready for two niches - people like me 
> who are techy and can get down and dirty and fix/configure things if 
> need be, and the kind of person who does web surfing and e-mail and not 
> much else.

Agreed.  I fit into the former niche.  My parents fit into the
latter.  (They run FreeBSD on their home computer.  Whenever
something goes wrong I login and try to fix it.  This is a heck of
a lot better than trying to fix things over the phone!)

> things don't mysteriously change or degrade

That depends.  I run a rather traditional unix box, so what you
say is true.  Unfortunately, a lot of newer applications save state
information so things do change and degrade.  (Mac OS X is an
extreme example of this, where the state for almost everything is
saved.  It worked okay in the traditional system software, but it
is somehow annoying in Mac OS X.)

> With KDE/Gnome progressing, and distributions with more config
> tools and auto-config capablilty, it's rapidly closing in on the
> middle.

My first encounter with KDE went something like this: "Oh my God,
this computer has been posessed by a snail!"  Without taking the
time to figure out what had happened, I made a slight tweak to my
.xsession file (namely, I created on with the command "fvwm").  I
was going to say that this evaluation may not be fair seeming as
I haven't used KDE in years, but that wouldn't be true.  I tried
it on this G4 and it took a generally spry Mac OS X installation
and made it as fast as a snail taking an evening stroll through
molasses.  I don't know how Gnome compares and I'm not willing to
try XFCE in a world which thinks KDE is a good thing.  I know if
I tried tossing a desktop environment on my parent's desktop machine
they would simply dispose of the computer.  They would end up buying
the cheapest computer they could find, and it would probably have
that operating system with a weak immune system.

There are other problems with KDE as well.  The interface is quite
busy, and the problem is quite evident everywhere from widget design
to the profound number of unlabelled icons.  Fortunately, sensible
operating systems (Mac OS and more traditional Unix installations)
don't suffer from this problem.  And the configuration panels are
a hell hole.  Compare the Preferences in Safari to those in Mozilla.
If you understand what each and every option in Mozilla does, I'll
call you an accomplished computer user.  If you know what half of
them do, I would say that you are still above average.  Now imagine
applying that degree of complexity to the entire system rather than
a single application.  Does your average user care about the style
of widgets when they want their Internet connection to work?
Doubtful.

Byron.

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