On 5 Jul 2011, at 11:02, Zhao, Juan J wrote:

>> I understand the requirement for the multi-plane graphical chips in a legacy
>> situation.
> Why do you say this is one legacy situation? I do believe it will provide 
> better performance than original HW overlay solution for video experience.

What I meant by a legacy situation was that, historically the chips used in TV 
and STB products where lower power, didn't have an embedded GPU and so enabled 
compositing via specialized hardware for multiple planes. So I understand how 
that situation is around. But to my mind, given the proliferation of mobile 
embedded CPU and GPU technology and software compositing that runs on these 
devices, I'm not sure that requirement for specialized multi-plane hardware is 
relevant anymore. If anything, it's probably becoming an impediment. 

>> Could Wayland+GPU not act as the multi-plane compositor now, composing the
>> resulting TV image of the Picture, OSD etc. ?
> Yes, I also want this answer. And want to get along with it early. I do hope 
> that compositor can work as directFB and will provide such layer 
> functionalities.
> And how will this work? Can the client set its own plane directly?
> And I got the information that dri already took this considered.

> 
> -----
> *^_^* BRs,
> Juan
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Glen Gray [mailto:sla...@slaine.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 5:50 PM
>> To: Zhao, Juan J
>> Cc: Kristian H?gsberg; meego...@lists.meego.com; Ville M. Vainio; meego-dev
>> list)
>> Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] which compositer will meego use for wayland?
>> 
>> This is something I've actually been thinking of lately. It's so obvious I'm 
>> sure
>> it's already been discussed and theres a valid reason for it not being 
>> pursued.
>> However, I'll ask anyway :)
>> 
>> I understand the requirement for the multi-plane graphical chips in a legacy
>> situation. However, given the move towards GPU accelerated drawing and
>> compositing, is this still a requirement of the TV/STB hardware ? I've CC'd 
>> the
>> meego-tv list on this question too as I think it's pertinent, especially with
>> regard to getting dev boards up and running and not having sufficient drivers
>> available for the CE4100 chipset.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 Jul 2011, at 06:28, Zhao, Juan J wrote:
>> 
>>> Meego TV platform have a special function--multi plane(multi pipeline).
>>> On Xorg, we use window manager to support this multi plane function.
>>> When moving to wayland, I think the compositor is still the best place to
>> support such functionality.
>>> So I raised this question; want to follow the meego compositer authors and
>> help to add our special functionality into that compositor.
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> *^_^* BRs,
>>> Juan
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com
>>>> [mailto:meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of Kristian H?gsberg
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 10:46 PM
>>>> To: Ville M. Vainio
>>>> Cc: meego-dev@meego.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] which compositer will meego use for wayland?
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Ville M. Vainio <vivai...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Thiago Macieira <thi...@kde.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It doesn't. I was going to ask steven what reasons he had for using the 
>>>>>> qt
>>>>>> compositor. It's just a sample compositor, showing what is possible to do
>> if
>>>>>> you integrate the wayland libraries into a QML-based application. I've
>> seen
>>>>>> other experiments doing the same, some of which would definitely never
>>>> qualify
>>>>>> for a product.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One advantage of using Qt Compositor as starting point would be making
>>>>> the compositor easy to modify, e.g. for OEM's looking for
>>>>> differentiated experience at compositor level.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you don't get worse performance with Qt Compositor, is there a good
>>>>> reason not to use it (as a starting point again, since it's not a
>>>>> "product" in itself)?
>>>> 
>>>> It's not ready yet, and won't be for 1.3.
>>>> 
>>>> Kristian
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>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

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