my oath i would do yhe same on my drive way,, me and my brothers use to do burnouts out the front of our place, when my parents went away, and when hey came back, hey`d say "how did hose markks ge here on he road?" er,er,er,er, we had o brake hard for a dog ec... and we acually use to get away with it !!!!
as far as i can figure i, who gives as toss as long as you dont hurtt any one? like i said the people that complain about burnouts etc..... are the ones thatt some ttimes use to do worse... who of us on this list can say we have never done a burnout on the road? as for speeding, i don give a toss also if you go 10-20 km over he limit, but driving supidly fast is asking for trouble... no more from me on tthis , mark k ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 1:40 AM Subject: Re: Re:Ben/Legal matters.....brad > > I think that this topic has been discussed at length now and there are many > different view points on it. > > One point i would like to put to people that think that burn outs and > dough-nuts are ok on the road is the following. Would you do exactly the > same on your driveway? right out the front of your garage? Would you mind > if i came around and did a burnout on your driveway? > > Its comes back to the "not in my backyard" syndrome, which i think is > wrong. It doesnt matter where it happens its still the same crime. > > Just my 5c worth > > Chris > > P.S. I dont plan to come around and do a burnout on your driveway btw!! > hehehe > > Brad Hallett writes: > > > Ryan > > Good reply, but I still maintain the road is no place for > > burnouts/racing. There are a number of reasons for this, and not only > > the usual accident related reasons we all know. > > > > One reason out of the usual is that race tracks and drag strips are > > purposely designed for the job. The corners are cambered correctly and > > the surfaces are smooth and well maintained. The design of the track > > and cleanliness of the surface mean you can literally drive to your > > limits with a minimun of external stimuli to cause a problem. Not many > > roads in our infrastructure can promise that. > > > > Other reasons are the presence of firies and ambulance should you run > > out of talent at an awkward moment, and also the proven ability of > > yourself and your car. On the road, you are simply putting others at > > risk as well as yourself and at the end of the day you have nothing to > > show for it. Big deal if you blew away another car on the road, you > > have proven nothing. On the track, you have shown a skill to perform as > > everyone is on a level playing field. > > > > I regularly download my emails to see people complaining they got a > > ticket, they got arrested, they are being harassed etc etc. If you > > don't make a dickhead of yourself and put yourself in that situation > > then you don't have a problem. If you do genuinely get pulled over by > > Traffic Branch for no apparent reason then you can blame every other > > dickhead that has done a burnout or hit the loud pedal because he was > > having a bad day, as they are the dickheads that draw attention to > > modified vehicles. > > > > I am 33 year old in June and I have driven rally cars, mostly Datsuns, > > and other fire breathers in events and on the road since I was 17. I > > have only copped grief from Traffic Branch and Qld Transport after > > clowns have played up in their poorly engineered shitboxes the night > > before etc and all loud modified vehicles were tarred with the same > > brush. > > > > Prove your metal and race on the track. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ryan Ottens > > Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2002 12:07 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Re:Ben/Legal matters.....brad > > > > > > > > brad i can see where your coming from. and i think its where everyone > > comes > > from(besides all us hoons) > > i think theres also a time and a place for everything. being a young > > hoon of > > only 17 i have seen a lot of incidents with friends in public places > > during > > broad daylight. ala one of my friends around the corner was drink > > driving at > > 5pm and wrote his car off into a bunch of trees in front of my house on > > the > > oval. > > but i think alot of people also criticise the living shit out of "hoons" > > and > > at times just plainly bad drivers. my mate was definately in the wrong > > and > > coped a fine and is losing his license. i think this is very fair > > punishment, what i dont think was appropriate was the guy that came up > > to > > him and punched him one, and went off at him, and the lady which claimed > > he > > went around the corner at 90+kph. a 90degree corner where he crashed > > over 50 > > mtrs after the corner. yes he took it too fast for his car a heavy arse > > xf > > wagon. and hes never been sideways b4 so didnt know what to do, ended up > > > > vearing to wrong side of road and into some trees. > > > > what also bothers me is how when i drive down my street and gun in > > through > > first and second gear at high revs. i stop at about 40mph so only just > > over > > the speed limit people look at me like im going 200ks or soemthing. but > > i > > can kane past at 90 in 5th gear and wont even get a glance. > > > > i admit i have done a lot of stupid things in my time and im sure alot > > more > > will come, but when i do i try to do it as safe as possible, like only > > at > > sorta a more safer time than others. like 4am compared to 4pm. > > > > again. just my opinion on this topic too. > > > > but no brad i dont blame you. but i guess it wouldnt bother you as much > > if > > people did it at a place and time where theres minimal to no risk in > > others? > > but not just on the track? > > i wouldnt mind getting your feedback on this. > > > > cheers, > > ryan > > > > >From: "Brad Hallett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: RE: Re:Ben/Legal matters > > >Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:10:16 +1000 > > > > > >I'll probably be howled down here but I don't care, I simply don't > > >understand what the fascination is with doing a burnout or racing on > > >suburban roads. > > > > > >If you want to build horsepower and prove yourself and your vehicle, > > >build a club racer or street class dragger and do your burnouts and > > >racing at the track. Don't fuck around on the street that our families > > > > >drive on to get to work, school, uni etc. > > > > > >Cheers > > >Brad > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adam Jackson > > >Sent: Monday, 22 April 2002 9:42 PM > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: Re:Ben/Legal matters > > > > > > > > >it's actually called discretion :) > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:12 PM > > >Subject: Re: Re:Ben/Legal matters > > > > > > > > > > your missing the point, he can do something like that and only get > > > > fined, whereas a car is being impounded for much less, that is what > > > > i meant by my "Bloody cops" remark > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Rick White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 11:06 PM > > > > Subject: Re:Ben/Legal matters > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ben. > > > > > Don't you mean bloodie idiot mate. > > > > > He got wot he deserved. > > > > > He doesn't deserve a licence or to own his car he deffinatly > > > > > desrves > > > > > > > > to > > > > have it confiscated. > > > > > Rick White. > > > > > > > > > > --- "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > its a bit harsh, my mate has been caught doing a toey in front of > > > > > a cop, > > > > he > > > > > got a $80 fine and got told there are places to do things like > > > > > this......empty car parks, heh. also just the other day he let his > > > > > > > v8 > > > > charger > > > > > come full noise opp lock around a corner in town, smoke pouring > > > > > outta > > >the > > > > > tyres, right in front of a cop.....once again $80 fine, no points. > > >bloody > > > > cops. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > > > > Get Your free Ozdat Email Account > > > > > ---> http://www.ozdat.com > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > > > > Run a small business? 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