we actually have a slab of concrete on a mates farm for those kinds of things......
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:10 AM Subject: Re: Re:Ben/Legal matters.....brad > > I think that this topic has been discussed at length now and there are many > different view points on it. > > One point i would like to put to people that think that burn outs and > dough-nuts are ok on the road is the following. Would you do exactly the > same on your driveway? right out the front of your garage? Would you mind > if i came around and did a burnout on your driveway? > > Its comes back to the "not in my backyard" syndrome, which i think is > wrong. It doesnt matter where it happens its still the same crime. > > Just my 5c worth > > Chris > > P.S. I dont plan to come around and do a burnout on your driveway btw!! > hehehe > > Brad Hallett writes: > > > Ryan > > Good reply, but I still maintain the road is no place for > > burnouts/racing. There are a number of reasons for this, and not only > > the usual accident related reasons we all know. > > > > One reason out of the usual is that race tracks and drag strips are > > purposely designed for the job. The corners are cambered correctly and > > the surfaces are smooth and well maintained. The design of the track > > and cleanliness of the surface mean you can literally drive to your > > limits with a minimun of external stimuli to cause a problem. Not many > > roads in our infrastructure can promise that. > > > > Other reasons are the presence of firies and ambulance should you run > > out of talent at an awkward moment, and also the proven ability of > > yourself and your car. On the road, you are simply putting others at > > risk as well as yourself and at the end of the day you have nothing to > > show for it. Big deal if you blew away another car on the road, you > > have proven nothing. On the track, you have shown a skill to perform as > > everyone is on a level playing field. > > > > I regularly download my emails to see people complaining they got a > > ticket, they got arrested, they are being harassed etc etc. If you > > don't make a dickhead of yourself and put yourself in that situation > > then you don't have a problem. If you do genuinely get pulled over by > > Traffic Branch for no apparent reason then you can blame every other > > dickhead that has done a burnout or hit the loud pedal because he was > > having a bad day, as they are the dickheads that draw attention to > > modified vehicles. > > > > I am 33 year old in June and I have driven rally cars, mostly Datsuns, > > and other fire breathers in events and on the road since I was 17. I > > have only copped grief from Traffic Branch and Qld Transport after > > clowns have played up in their poorly engineered shitboxes the night > > before etc and all loud modified vehicles were tarred with the same > > brush. > > > > Prove your metal and race on the track. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ryan Ottens > > Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2002 12:07 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Re:Ben/Legal matters.....brad > > > > > > > > brad i can see where your coming from. and i think its where everyone > > comes > > from(besides all us hoons) > > i think theres also a time and a place for everything. being a young > > hoon of > > only 17 i have seen a lot of incidents with friends in public places > > during > > broad daylight. ala one of my friends around the corner was drink > > driving at > > 5pm and wrote his car off into a bunch of trees in front of my house on > > the > > oval. > > but i think alot of people also criticise the living shit out of "hoons" > > and > > at times just plainly bad drivers. my mate was definately in the wrong > > and > > coped a fine and is losing his license. i think this is very fair > > punishment, what i dont think was appropriate was the guy that came up > > to > > him and punched him one, and went off at him, and the lady which claimed > > he > > went around the corner at 90+kph. a 90degree corner where he crashed > > over 50 > > mtrs after the corner. yes he took it too fast for his car a heavy arse > > xf > > wagon. and hes never been sideways b4 so didnt know what to do, ended up > > > > vearing to wrong side of road and into some trees. > > > > what also bothers me is how when i drive down my street and gun in > > through > > first and second gear at high revs. i stop at about 40mph so only just > > over > > the speed limit people look at me like im going 200ks or soemthing. but > > i > > can kane past at 90 in 5th gear and wont even get a glance. > > > > i admit i have done a lot of stupid things in my time and im sure alot > > more > > will come, but when i do i try to do it as safe as possible, like only > > at > > sorta a more safer time than others. like 4am compared to 4pm. > > > > again. just my opinion on this topic too. > > > > but no brad i dont blame you. but i guess it wouldnt bother you as much > > if > > people did it at a place and time where theres minimal to no risk in > > others? > > but not just on the track? > > i wouldnt mind getting your feedback on this. > > > > cheers, > > ryan > > > > >From: "Brad Hallett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: RE: Re:Ben/Legal matters > > >Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:10:16 +1000 > > > > > >I'll probably be howled down here but I don't care, I simply don't > > >understand what the fascination is with doing a burnout or racing on > > >suburban roads. > > > > > >If you want to build horsepower and prove yourself and your vehicle, > > >build a club racer or street class dragger and do your burnouts and > > >racing at the track. Don't fuck around on the street that our families > > > > >drive on to get to work, school, uni etc. > > > > > >Cheers > > >Brad > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adam Jackson > > >Sent: Monday, 22 April 2002 9:42 PM > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: Re:Ben/Legal matters > > > > > > > > >it's actually called discretion :) > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:12 PM > > >Subject: Re: Re:Ben/Legal matters > > > > > > > > > > your missing the point, he can do something like that and only get > > > > fined, whereas a car is being impounded for much less, that is what > > > > i meant by my "Bloody cops" remark > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Rick White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 11:06 PM > > > > Subject: Re:Ben/Legal matters > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ben. > > > > > Don't you mean bloodie idiot mate. > > > > > He got wot he deserved. > > > > > He doesn't deserve a licence or to own his car he deffinatly > > > > > desrves > > > > > > > > to > > > > have it confiscated. > > > > > Rick White. > > > > > > > > > > --- "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > its a bit harsh, my mate has been caught doing a toey in front of > > > > > a cop, > > > > he > > > > > got a $80 fine and got told there are places to do things like > > > > > this......empty car parks, heh. also just the other day he let his > > > > > > > v8 > > > > charger > > > > > come full noise opp lock around a corner in town, smoke pouring > > > > > outta > > >the > > > > > tyres, right in front of a cop.....once again $80 fine, no points. > > >bloody > > > > cops. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > > > > Get Your free Ozdat Email Account > > > > > ---> http://www.ozdat.com > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > > > > Run a small business? 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