i would have gone for F15 emulsion tubes, thats what i use in mine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: twin weber settings


> Hi Chris,
> 
> Your setup sounds like a decent starting point, if a little on the rich
> side. Here's my setup for reference:
> 
> L20B, 76 deg cam, .595" valve lift, big valves, big exhaust, 10.5:1 comp
> 
> 45 DCOE 13's
> Chokes: 36
> Aux vent: 4.5
> Main Jet: 140
> Air Corrector: 185
> Emulsion: F2
> Idle Jet: 50F9
> Pump Jet: 40
> Plugs: NGK BPR7EIX
> B/B electronic dizzy
> 15 BTDC
> 
> I arrived at these settings after spending a day driving around with an
> Autronic wide band A/F meter shoved up the pipe and a full set of Weber
> jets, chokes, vents etc. to try things out. It is set up safely rich at
> the moment. The hardest area to get right is the progression from idle
> to main circuits. The major factors influencing this area are
> progression holes, emulsion tubes and idle jets.
> 
> I tried 38mm chokes which were marginally better up top but lost out a
> bit down low. 34mm choked the top end too much.
> 
> A major factor is which actual Weber bodies you have. The progression
> holes which are uncovered on slight throttle are drilled into the body
> and differ between different 45's. The carb has a number after the DCOE
> (i.e. 45 DCOE 13) which indicates which progression holes the carb has
> as well as some other minor differences throughout the DCOE series (i.e.
> some carbs have idle air bypass passages whereas others don't, some
> carbs have progression holes accessible via a removable screw whereas
> others have a pressed in brass welch plug covering them instead) For
> this reason it is advisable to use a matching set. I have found that the
> stock progression holes in a 13 body are a bit weak and you need to
> compensate by running one size larger idle jet (50) than really
> necessary in order to cover the lean spot in the transition.
> 
> But anyway, I'm sick of carbies so these are going on shortly:
> 
> http://turbovan.com/images/efi1.jpg
> http://turbovan.com/images/efi2.jpg
> 
> Mick, your setup seems to be pretty rich, I bet if you put some bigger
> air correctors in it would pull hard to 7000. Might be worth borrowing a
> dyno and/or A/F meter. I had 150 airs in and it was running 10:1 A/F in
> the top end... Going up step by step made it better all the way... Now
> it's running a conservative 12:1 up top, and doesn't want to stop at
> 7000 :)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris Howard
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://turbovan.com
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of mick ralph
> > Sent: Monday, 27 May 2002 11:30 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: twin webber settings
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Chris
> > I tried to get a thread going like this a while ago
> > All those numbers sound 'ball park". The difficulty in 
> > comparing jettings is
> > compounded by different engine setups.
> > My L20 has big valves 76 cam and fairly open exhaust system
> > My settings were
> > Venturi  36
> > Main Jet 150
> > Air correction jet 150
> > Emulsion Tube F2
> > Idle Jet 45 F9
> > Pump Jet 40
> > Plugs BP6EY
> > Std B/B electronic dissy - no vac advance
> > 15 BTDC
> > This set up is very similar to yours but recently because of 
> > discussions
> > with terry and the list and some help from a guy called 
> > MOTACARB here in
> > nerang, I now run slightly smaller mains #145  and much 
> > larger airs #190
> > with really good results. I'm also considering going up again 
> > with the air
> > jets just to try it out. The engine revs much sharper now and 
> > doesn't bog
> > down so much below 3500rpm, like it used to a bit. Trouble is it still
> > doesn't want to rev right out to 7000 like it used to. I'm 
> > gonna build a
> > better bottom end before i go any further here.
> > For anyone interested in weber parts this guy at Motacarb 
> > sells airs and
> > mains @ $5.00 +gst.
> > Has anyone used an O2 sensor in a L20B with webbers?
> > This new "no lead" fuel is a bugger for checking fuel mixtures.
> > I'm sure Terry and Errol and co can fill u in on the more 
> > technical stuff
> > chris. My information is mostly anecdotal.
> > cheers
> > Mick
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 6:38 PM
> > Subject: twin webber settings
> > 
> > 
> > > Hey guys,
> > >
> > > Ive got an L20 with extractors and twin webbers, not sure 
> > about the cam,
> > >  ive been told its an Ivan tie (?) works 72 deg cam.
> > > 34 - 74 --- 35 - 655        495 valve lift
> > > XO - XC - IO - IC
> > > The engine seems to make power from about 2.5 - 5.5k. does 
> > this sound
> > about
> > > right for this cam?
> > >
> > > Also i thought i would check out my webbers and see what 
> > kind of settings
> > > they had.
> > >
> > > Carby: 2x 45 DCOE 13
> > > chokes: 36
> > > Aux vent: couldn't get out.
> > > Main jet: 150
> > > emulsion tube:  F15
> > > Air corrector: 160
> > > idle jet: 50 F9
> > > acc pump jet: 50
> > >
> > > haven't opened them up so dont know needle valves etc.
> > >
> > > Do these specs sound about right?Is there anything in the 
> > carbys that
> > would
> > > be holding it back from 6.5 - 7k?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help
> > >
> > > Chris King.
> 
> 

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