here here with with getting bored of the 2 make contest!! I've read the CAMS 2002 and it's basicly the same, well kind of. I hate to say this BUT you do what you can get away with! Like most of the scrutineers know about as much as you do (theres' alot to know!!) I mean like you can argue with them saying if its not in the rules you can do it, The rules are up to interruptation(spell)! Well most of them are anyway! I would like to be there when they do scrutineer that car, just to see what they do!! I know it sucks that people do this kind of stuff, but if you can't besa them join them! BUT the line does stop! It's up to YOU where! Like a mate which will name nameless has a (he thinks anyway!)2.4 stroker in his stanza But in says its a 2.0! That pisses me off! BUT he's fucking slow so I don't care! I beat him last time in a 10km stage by 25 seconds! Thats how slow he is!! But I won't go any where near that far! I want to win fair and square! I want the feeling that " our cars are simliar but I beat you on the road!" That's it!! Cheers NAt
P.S Sorry about the long e-mail I had more to say BUT I would be just rambling!! Cheers NAT --- Craig Overend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nat, > if you read the CAMS book, its really a grey > area. I only have a 2000 > one but right at the start of the rules for group3c > it lists a section on > adding material or parts. Whereby its not allowed > unless specified in the > specific sections, so really your not allowed to.... > but if you call the > head spacer a head gasket you could probably get > away with it though. It > says head gaskets are free, lol.... lets all call it > a another head > gasket.... :)) > It does say in there that pre 1986 2wd have free > engine capacity so long > as its within the homologated engine block which > says to me you can have > the biggest bore and stroke as you like so long and > you can fit it, it > doesn't say you can't put a head spacer on to do > this....... :)) > However even boring an engine beyond 0.6mm or > changing the rods is > unclear in the manual, yet everyone does it. It does > say the crank is > free... but doesn't mention the rods or bore > are...infact it says the > opposite. > If you really read it(not easy!), it says you can't > overbore more than > 0.6mm that would mean a bore of 86.6mm(standard L18 > datsun spec oversize > bore of 86mm + 0.6mm) using standards prepped rods > and any crank stroke > you like. What rally engines comply with this?! not > many. Who'd want to? > :P > I remember reading the rules for the first time > being really confused as > to what you can and can't do. I guess you can either > build what you think > is right or ask CAMS first then build what they will > let you run. Where's > the fun in that tho, being told what you can and > can't do... I'm spewing > I missed the Group G rally days, they sound like a > lot of fun just > building let alone driving. > I'm looking forward to seeing the new prototype > cars like Neil Bates's > GT4 inspired Corolla. Hopefully a Peugeot 206, Ford > Focus, Holden > Astra/Vectra and other versions too... i'm a bit > sick of Scooby-doo's and > Sir lance a lots. > > cheers, > Craig. > > "nat P." wrote: > > > There's no rule to say that you can't have a > spacer > > there! > > So if there's no rule then you can!!! > > Cheers nAT > > > > > > --- Craig Overend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > Errol, > > > I gather this monster datto L18 is supposed to > be > > > PRC legal? How do they get > > > away with installing a head spacer, they way I > > > understand it that would be > > > illegal, is this not the case? I see you mention > > > that was the original engine, > > > do you know what this is being replaced with? > > > > > > That would be a sick project though! Torque > monster > > > 2.4 rally engine! Just bolt > > > on a 1" head spacer, sleeve the block to 89mm, > line > > > bore the main's and > > > clearance the block and crank to drop in a Z24 > 96mm > > > crank, custom 160.3mm rods > > > and custom 25mm pin height forgies. 1.67 > rod/stroke > > > ratio 0.55mach index > > > designed head fully efi... Ooh tempting, if head > > > spacers are legal! > > > > > > Was there ever any L series 4 valve heads made > that > > > you could legally run on an > > > engine like this? If so build yourself an FJ24 L > > > series then! :)) Can you > > > imagine that in a PRC legal sub 900kg datto?! I > can. > > > You might need some lead > > > ballast in the floor to bring it up to the > minimum > > > weight for a 2.4L though! :P > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Craig. > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > Send (un)subscribe requests to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > No unauthorised redistribution of this email > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.sold.com.au - SOLD.com.au - Find yourself a bargain! --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
