<<<When we react quickly to a stimulus, we
don't have time to think.>>>

our brains are faster than you give them credit for and the hardwiring is
already in place from evolutionary standpoint,eh?  Quantum realms are just
not fully explored yet to decide if they defy logic.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Rick S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> No, I can't point to a better verification system than logic. It is
> the best verification system I know of.  But that is not the same
> thing as saying it is limited in scope. Anyone who has studied Quantum
> physics even a little will realize that there are things in the
> universe that seem to defy logic.  And I'm not saying to replace logic
> with faith or pyschic abilities.  There are more things operating in
> our lives than just logic.  When we react quickly to a stimulus, we
> don't have time to think. Other scientists have gone beyond narrow
> frameworks.  For example, Carl Jung talked about a "collective
> unconsious".  And there's intuition, like when twins separated by some
> distance know the other is hurt.  Logic is great but it is not the
> only tool in the toolbox.
>
> Rick S
>
> On Oct 27, 9:23 am, stem cell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >>>Rick S said, "My aim is not to disparage logic,
> >
> > only to point out that it is limited in scope."
> >
> > Can you provide an example of another type of verification system that
> > works better than logic?  Do you know of any system that is not
> > "limited" or at least not as "limited" and what is that system?
> >
> > The only ones I can come up with are psychic abilities and
> > FAITH.  :-)  Not sure "FAITH" is a "system" but go with me here. :-)
> >
> > >>>Taylor said, "Most people who go to great lengths to point out limits
> of science
> >
> > (real or imagined) are usually doing so in order to remove obstacles
> > to your believing in their brand of woo."
> >
> > Dr. Wayne Dyer, perhaps?  Charles Gillihan?  Michael Behe?  Oooh
> > oooh!  Wait...Steven C. Myer of the Discovery Institute.
> >
> > >>>Taylor said, " I see nothing on the site about who "Dr. Terry Halwes"
> is or what his
> >
> > credentials are.  That normally means a medical doctor or dentist, at
> > best, but more likely a Ph.D. in theology or some other pseudo
> > science.  In other words, not a scientist."
> >
> > What about a phone psychic?  Wait...did I just say that or think it?
> >
> > stemcell
> >
> > On Oct 26, 11:53 pm, Rick S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >      In researching an idea for an essay I had about the limits of
> > > logic, I came across a very interesting essay by a scientist, to which
> > > I will provide a link.  By the way, I also picked up some very
> > > interesting quotes about logic.  My aim is not to disparage logic,
> > > only to point out that it is limited in scope.  First the quotes:
> >
> > > "What is laid down, ordered, factual is never enough to embrace the
> > > whole truth: life always spills over the rim of every cup."
> > > - Boris Pasternak
> >
> > > "Pure logic is the ruin of the spirit."
> > > - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
> >
> > > "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed
> > > that uses it."
> > > - Rabindranath Tagore
> >
> > > The wrong view of science betrays itself in the craving to be right;
> > > for it is not his possession of knowledge, of irrefutable truth, that
> > > makes the man of science, but his persistent and recklessly critical
> > > quest for truth.
> > > Sir Karl Popper
> > > The Logic of Scientific Discovery
> >
> > > Here's the link:  http://dharma-haven.org/science/terrible-truth.htm.
> >
> > > Rick S- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
> >
>

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