"...are you still seeing my post as "CB"???" - CrossBow

No, I had just adopted the convention and will now let it go.

On Oct 27, 10:01 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Call mine "fuzzy"
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> are you still seeing my post as "CB"???
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:45 AM, ornamentalmind
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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> > "Logic may be our only bridge...." - CB
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> > Often I find that the person who presents the term 'logic' has a
> > specific method and/or dogma in mind. . . one that is assumed to be a
> > universal when, of course, it is not.
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> > There are numerous types of 'logic' as a starting point here.
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> > On Oct 27, 8:14 am, "C B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Logic is not limited in scope, only the "human" use of it is. Logic is
> > not
> > > an isolated system because the brain is not structured that way. Crays or
> > > thier ilk could be the only true isolated-logic producers we have. Our
> > fat
> > > little pinkish grey brain cells can make up some pretty interesting stuff
> > > like "faith" - you can get lost squirming in metaphysics, which, in my
> > > opinion, does not take an intuitive thinker, but one that is willing to
> > be
> > > led from logic toward delusion.  Okay, stake me in the heart, for that
> > one,
> > > but I can't go there and believe me I have tried numerous times.
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> > > Would you agree that Humans only have one perspective for each brain that
> > > can only be glimpsed by another brain and much of what we think is a
> > > delusion to someone else (that is not to be construed as disparaging to
> > > anyone else)? Logic may be our only bridge....
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> >  > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:23 AM, stem cell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
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> > > > >>>Rick S said, "My aim is not to disparage logic,
> > > > only to point out that it is limited in scope."
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> > > > Can you provide an example of another type of verification system that
> > > > works better than logic?  Do you know of any system that is not
> > > > "limited" or at least not as "limited" and what is that system?
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> > > > The only ones I can come up with are psychic abilities and
> > > > FAITH.  :-)  Not sure "FAITH" is a "system" but go with me here. :-)
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> > > > >>>Taylor said, "Most people who go to great lengths to point out
> > limits of
> > > > science
> > > > (real or imagined) are usually doing so in order to remove obstacles
> > > > to your believing in their brand of woo."
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> > > > Dr. Wayne Dyer, perhaps?  Charles Gillihan?  Michael Behe?  Oooh
> > > > oooh!  Wait...Steven C. Myer of the Discovery Institute.
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> > > > >>>Taylor said, " I see nothing on the site about who "Dr. Terry
> > Halwes" is
> > > > or what his
> > > > credentials are.  That normally means a medical doctor or dentist, at
> > > > best, but more likely a Ph.D. in theology or some other pseudo
> > > > science.  In other words, not a scientist."
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> > > > What about a phone psychic?  Wait...did I just say that or think it?
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> > > > stemcell
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> > > > On Oct 26, 11:53 pm, Rick S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >      In researching an idea for an essay I had about the limits of
> > > > > logic, I came across a very interesting essay by a scientist, to
> > which
> > > > > I will provide a link.  By the way, I also picked up some very
> > > > > interesting quotes about logic.  My aim is not to disparage logic,
> > > > > only to point out that it is limited in scope.  First the quotes:
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> > > > > "What is laid down, ordered, factual is never enough to embrace the
> > > > > whole truth: life always spills over the rim of every cup."
> > > > > - Boris Pasternak
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> > > > > "Pure logic is the ruin of the spirit."
> > > > > - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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> > > > > "A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed
> > > > > that uses it."
> > > > > - Rabindranath Tagore
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> > > > > The wrong view of science betrays itself in the craving to be right;
> > > > > for it is not his possession of knowledge, of irrefutable truth, that
> > > > > makes the man of science, but his persistent and recklessly critical
> > > > > quest for truth.
> > > > > Sir Karl Popper
> > > > > The Logic of Scientific Discovery
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> > > > > Here's the link:  http://dharma-haven.org/science/terrible-truth.htm
> > .
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