Mike,

That is pretty much how politics has been: a party gets corrupt/
dishonest; it loses votes and politcal positions; then the party
redefines itself.  The democrats redefined themselves in some ways and
got better under Bush.  If you look at the democrats 50 years ago,
that party looks a lot different.

Jason


On Nov 5, 7:45 am, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 6:28 am, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > That is a childish conclusion. Things are no longer about how long any
> > silly political party predominates.
>
> Tell that to the necons and others who have taken over the Republican
> party. Above all else, it has been their goal to dominate.
>
> >This election, more than
> > anything else, thankfully will force conservatives to redefine
> > themselves.
>
> It is more likely that any redefination done by the so called
> conservatives will be *ALL* about fooling the gulible into thinking
> that they are out for them rather than becoming honest conservatives
> who deserve a place in the policy debate. You can't fool all of the
> people all of the time, but you can fool enough of the people enough
> of the time to get elected. If it wasn't for the timing of the stock
> market crash McCain may have won. This is not the old "straight talk"
> McCain either (who really wasn't all that straight talking. The McCain
> who ran against Obama is a sellout to the worst elements of his party.
> And Sarah Palin is likely to be their future.
>
> I hope you are right BBDD, and the conservatives rethink their game,
> moving in the direction of honesty. This would likley make the dems/
> libs more honest too. I hope your're right, but I'm not betting on
> it!
>
> On Nov 5, 6:28 am, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > That is a childish conclusion. Things are no longer about how long any
> > silly political party predominates. In a desperate world it is about
> > what works beyond such considerations. This election, more than
> > anything else, thankfully will force conservatives to redefine
> > themselves. The situations created by Cheney/Bush rule and will for
> > some time. NO ONE can just reverse what has been done world wide. What
> > remains to be seen is whether Obama, even with the balance now in
> > Congress, will be able to assist us in surviving what is already at
> > play and defining the world. Even ending that ridiculous war cannot
> > suddenly make the damage done by it go away. Far more than the support
> > of both houses, what Obama has that will make a tremendous difference
> > is the admiration of most of that world we screwed up. We are not a
> > country anymore. No one is. Like it or not we are member nations. Now
> > maybe we can be a beneficial member of that family.
>
> >http://niggerwise.com
>
> > On Nov 5, 5:21 am, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > democrats hold the presidency, the house and the senate...when clinton
> > > and bush has this advantage, it didn't last their entire term.- Hide 
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