You, like Rove, have hockey team notions about politics. None of you seem to have a clue about the Republicans or politics. No party is one group. The Republicans lost primarily because of embarrassments generated by the ignorant base Palin was a play to. They will change ~ not in personal character ~ but who is listened to concerning strategy.
William F. Buckley is the greatest of all conservatives throughout the twentieth century. Those who associate with his ideas are the mind of the party (far more elitist than a black man being articulate). They are free thought advocates who see the party as being only about the market place and not about what one does in the bedroom. Republicans since Reagan have been drawing on the most ignorant base over issues like race and private issues. Two things are happening. That base is losing all on its own ~ slowly but certainly. The other far more significant factor is specific to this election. Palin and her blunders, plumbers that don't pay taxes, and crazy ladies that think a name makes you Muslim, have made the lot of them look like idiots. I knew William Buckley. I met Christopher many years ago. These folks are the kind of smart you here pretend to. The are proud elitists! This SHOW has angered them. The Carl Roves will start losing the ear of the party. This is simple fact. http://niggerwise.com On Nov 5, 11:07 am, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not disputing the likelihood that the Republican party will try > to change; I am just suggesting that the change may be mostly or > perhaps even entirely a facade. > > On Nov 5, 10:26 am, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Mike, > > > That is pretty much how politics has been: a party gets corrupt/ > > dishonest; it loses votes and politcal positions; then the party > > redefines itself. The democrats redefined themselves in some ways and > > got better under Bush. If you look at the democrats 50 years ago, > > that party looks a lot different. > > > Jason > > > On Nov 5, 7:45 am, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Nov 5, 6:28 am, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > That is a childish conclusion. Things are no longer about how long any > > > > silly political party predominates. > > > > Tell that to the necons and others who have taken over the Republican > > > party. Above all else, it has been their goal to dominate. > > > > >This election, more than > > > > anything else, thankfully will force conservatives to redefine > > > > themselves. > > > > It is more likely that any redefination done by the so called > > > conservatives will be *ALL* about fooling the gulible into thinking > > > that they are out for them rather than becoming honest conservatives > > > who deserve a place in the policy debate. You can't fool all of the > > > people all of the time, but you can fool enough of the people enough > > > of the time to get elected. If it wasn't for the timing of the stock > > > market crash McCain may have won. This is not the old "straight talk" > > > McCain either (who really wasn't all that straight talking. The McCain > > > who ran against Obama is a sellout to the worst elements of his party. > > > And Sarah Palin is likely to be their future. > > > > I hope you are right BBDD, and the conservatives rethink their game, > > > moving in the direction of honesty. This would likley make the dems/ > > > libs more honest too. I hope your're right, but I'm not betting on > > > it! > > > > On Nov 5, 6:28 am, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > That is a childish conclusion. Things are no longer about how long any > > > > silly political party predominates. In a desperate world it is about > > > > what works beyond such considerations. This election, more than > > > > anything else, thankfully will force conservatives to redefine > > > > themselves. The situations created by Cheney/Bush rule and will for > > > > some time. NO ONE can just reverse what has been done world wide. What > > > > remains to be seen is whether Obama, even with the balance now in > > > > Congress, will be able to assist us in surviving what is already at > > > > play and defining the world. Even ending that ridiculous war cannot > > > > suddenly make the damage done by it go away. Far more than the support > > > > of both houses, what Obama has that will make a tremendous difference > > > > is the admiration of most of that world we screwed up. We are not a > > > > country anymore. No one is. Like it or not we are member nations. Now > > > > maybe we can be a beneficial member of that family. > > > > >http://niggerwise.com > > > > > On Nov 5, 5:21 am, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > democrats hold the presidency, the house and the senate...when clinton > > > > > and bush has this advantage, it didn't last their entire term.- Hide > > > > > quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
