Jason, it is obvious you don't know these conservatives. The "core values" are very different from "the base" values. This is what is significant about those of the stature of the Christophers (the power elite of conservatives) suggesting that all should vote straight Democrat, not because they are better, but as a protest against the True Republicans turning to a base that embarrasses. No real conservative sees any place for government in anything but national defense. They do tend to not identify with the working stiff. Frankly neither do I and I am socialist. Why does anyone get a job when one can make in excess of $1000 an hour recycling??? To many of us, those who are lower middle class just are not trying hard enough. If they can't, then so be socialism. If they can, in this country gold is literally free... if you know how to harvest it.
http://niggerwise.com On Nov 5, 11:57 am, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Republicans are historically ardent supporters of evolution and not > very religious. Historically, that is true. Today, that is not true. > Facade? The core conservative values of not wanting change & > supporting the weathy (Republican) verses wanting change & supporting > the middleclass and poor (Democratic) doesn't change. Everything else > is like the weather. > > Jason > > On Nov 5, 11:07 am, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I am not disputing the likelihood that the Republican party will try > > to change; I am just suggesting that the change may be mostly or > > perhaps even entirely a facade. > > > On Nov 5, 10:26 am, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Mike, > > > > That is pretty much how politics has been: a party gets corrupt/ > > > dishonest; it loses votes and politcal positions; then the party > > > redefines itself. The democrats redefined themselves in some ways and > > > got better under Bush. If you look at the democrats 50 years ago, > > > that party looks a lot different. > > > > Jason > > > > On Nov 5, 7:45 am, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 5, 6:28 am, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > That is a childish conclusion. Things are no longer about how long any > > > > > silly political party predominates. > > > > > Tell that to the necons and others who have taken over the Republican > > > > party. Above all else, it has been their goal to dominate. > > > > > >This election, more than > > > > > anything else, thankfully will force conservatives to redefine > > > > > themselves. > > > > > It is more likely that any redefination done by the so called > > > > conservatives will be *ALL* about fooling the gulible into thinking > > > > that they are out for them rather than becoming honest conservatives > > > > who deserve a place in the policy debate. You can't fool all of the > > > > people all of the time, but you can fool enough of the people enough > > > > of the time to get elected. If it wasn't for the timing of the stock > > > > market crash McCain may have won. This is not the old "straight talk" > > > > McCain either (who really wasn't all that straight talking. The McCain > > > > who ran against Obama is a sellout to the worst elements of his party. > > > > And Sarah Palin is likely to be their future. > > > > > I hope you are right BBDD, and the conservatives rethink their game, > > > > moving in the direction of honesty. This would likley make the dems/ > > > > libs more honest too. I hope your're right, but I'm not betting on > > > > it! > > > > > On Nov 5, 6:28 am, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > That is a childish conclusion. Things are no longer about how long any > > > > > silly political party predominates. In a desperate world it is about > > > > > what works beyond such considerations. This election, more than > > > > > anything else, thankfully will force conservatives to redefine > > > > > themselves. The situations created by Cheney/Bush rule and will for > > > > > some time. NO ONE can just reverse what has been done world wide. What > > > > > remains to be seen is whether Obama, even with the balance now in > > > > > Congress, will be able to assist us in surviving what is already at > > > > > play and defining the world. Even ending that ridiculous war cannot > > > > > suddenly make the damage done by it go away. Far more than the support > > > > > of both houses, what Obama has that will make a tremendous difference > > > > > is the admiration of most of that world we screwed up. We are not a > > > > > country anymore. No one is. Like it or not we are member nations. Now > > > > > maybe we can be a beneficial member of that family. > > > > > >http://niggerwise.com > > > > > > On Nov 5, 5:21 am, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > democrats hold the presidency, the house and the senate...when > > > > > > clinton > > > > > > and bush has this advantage, it didn't last their entire term.- > > > > > > Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
