John Edwards did, didn't he? Liz
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ornamentalmind Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 5:17 PM To: Memphis Freethought Alliance Subject: Re: democrats rule "...wanting change & supporting the middleclass and poor (Democratic) ..." - Jason It has been many many years since I've heard a Democrat (let alone a Republican) mention the word 'poor'. . . middle class, a lot, poor, not at all. On Nov 5, 9:57 am, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Republicans are historically ardent supporters of evolution and not > very religious. Historically, that is true. Today, that is not true. > Facade? The core conservative values of not wanting change & > supporting the weathy (Republican) verses wanting change & supporting > the middleclass and poor (Democratic) doesn't change. Everything else > is like the weather. > > Jason > > On Nov 5, 11:07 am, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I am not disputing the likelihood that the Republican party will try > > to change; I am just suggesting that the change may be mostly or > > perhaps even entirely a facade. > > > On Nov 5, 10:26 am, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Mike, > > > > That is pretty much how politics has been: a party gets corrupt/ > > > dishonest; it loses votes and politcal positions; then the party > > > redefines itself. The democrats redefined themselves in some ways and > > > got better under Bush. If you look at the democrats 50 years ago, > > > that party looks a lot different. > > > > Jason > > > > On Nov 5, 7:45 am, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 5, 6:28 am, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > That is a childish conclusion. Things are no longer about how long any > > > > > silly political party predominates. > > > > > Tell that to the necons and others who have taken over the Republican > > > > party. Above all else, it has been their goal to dominate. > > > > > >This election, more than > > > > > anything else, thankfully will force conservatives to redefine > > > > > themselves. > > > > > It is more likely that any redefination done by the so called > > > > conservatives will be *ALL* about fooling the gulible into thinking > > > > that they are out for them rather than becoming honest conservatives > > > > who deserve a place in the policy debate. You can't fool all of the > > > > people all of the time, but you can fool enough of the people enough > > > > of the time to get elected. If it wasn't for the timing of the stock > > > > market crash McCain may have won. This is not the old "straight talk" > > > > McCain either (who really wasn't all that straight talking. The McCain > > > > who ran against Obama is a sellout to the worst elements of his party. > > > > And Sarah Palin is likely to be their future. > > > > > I hope you are right BBDD, and the conservatives rethink their game, > > > > moving in the direction of honesty. This would likley make the dems/ > > > > libs more honest too. I hope your're right, but I'm not betting on > > > > it! > > > > > On Nov 5, 6:28 am, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > That is a childish conclusion. Things are no longer about how long any > > > > > silly political party predominates. In a desperate world it is about > > > > > what works beyond such considerations. This election, more than > > > > > anything else, thankfully will force conservatives to redefine > > > > > themselves. The situations created by Cheney/Bush rule and will for > > > > > some time. NO ONE can just reverse what has been done world wide. What > > > > > remains to be seen is whether Obama, even with the balance now in > > > > > Congress, will be able to assist us in surviving what is already at > > > > > play and defining the world. Even ending that ridiculous war cannot > > > > > suddenly make the damage done by it go away. Far more than the support > > > > > of both houses, what Obama has that will make a tremendous difference > > > > > is the admiration of most of that world we screwed up. We are not a > > > > > country anymore. No one is. Like it or not we are member nations. Now > > > > > maybe we can be a beneficial member of that family. > > > > > >http://niggerwise.com > > > > > > On Nov 5, 5:21 am, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > democrats hold the presidency, the house and the senate...when clinton > > > > > > and bush has this advantage, it didn't last their entire term.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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