Touche, and correct. Do you agree most logic hounds do not want to examine that side of the coin? Sometimes I have to practically hurt myself to flip over to the logic side. Too much art and music can make you resistant to logic:)
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:26 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > "...They seem to do best if wrapped together!" - CB > > The truth, examined or not, is that they ARE wrapped together. > > On Nov 6, 11:58 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > NICE................ > > > > Romantic fantasies? too bad so many logicians view emotion as > > weakness...instead of examining them, and reveling in them! Control, > > control, control! Logic, logic, logic! Methinks it gets worn thin, dry, > > and not fun:) Ha, ironic that a logic machine takes us to the moon while > > the astronauts heart is blazing. They seem to do best if wrapped > together! > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:43 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Truth is I saw precious little eye contact. And, it was a different > > > era... much easier to hold romantic fantasies within one's reverie. > > > > > By the way Ezio, as well as Mary of course, was well known in that > > > era. I remember all of this! : - ) > > > > > And then the musical association from Gigi arose… "Ah, Yes, I Remember > > > It Well". A truly simpler and more naïve time… for many of us in the > > > US. > > > > >http://er.neoxer.com/lyrics/gigi.html > > > > > On Nov 6, 10:21 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Did you see how the dude was looking at her? I can't help but think > he > > > was > > > > imagining an alien under her skin! I laughed out of my chair:) > > > > > > Liked it though. > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:02 PM, ornamentalmind < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > Bliss!!!! > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1qpQb11YWc > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOG2x6xhbhM > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 9:43 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Irrevocably romantic, but I don't like it that way most of the > time:) > > > > > But, > > > > > > saying that, admit I can explore emotion without losing my grand > > > anchor > > > > > of > > > > > > logic! > > > > > > > > Yes, lyrics are spot on. Some consider it naivete and illogical. > It > > > has > > > > > > always kept me from giving up:) Music! ah, my favorite emotional > > > > > vehicle. > > > > > > Words and music together? BLISS! > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:35 AM, ornamentalmind < > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > "…Yes, an optimist to the core:)" – CB > > > > > > > > > Yes, I hesitated because of the current feeling of 'hope'. > However, > > > I > > > > > > > know it is temporary. > > > > > > > A song came to mind for 'ya.' I remember when the musical first > > > came > > > > > > > out. I liked this and the rest of 'em too. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/southpacific/acockeyedoptimist.htm > > > > > > > > > "…weaknesses in space, as we don't have enough research on it > yet." > > > – > > > > > > > CB > > > > > > > > > While I do understand what you mean here, I disagree. The > > > 'research' > > > > > > > to date all points one way. > > > > > > > > > "…Just think how different that humanity would be...Spacers." – > CB > > > > > > > > > Again, while I love SF too, ………….. > > > > > > > > > "…Syonara Blue Planet:)" – CB > > > > > > > > > First, I didn't miss all of your 'if's used prior to this. > > > Secondly, > > > > > > > even IF this were possible and humanity doesn't destroy itself > > > soon, I > > > > > > > would draw an analogy with the leak at Sverdlovsk in 1979. > > > > > > > > > "…my sweetest wish it to live long enough to see it all happen. > Ah, > > > > > > > well:)" – CB > > > > > > > > > Ahhh, a romantic too, eh?! : - ) > > > > >http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/southpacific/someenchantedevening.htm > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 9:05 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > It does not matter if I like the answer - just that I get > one:) > > > > > Funny, > > > > > > > last > > > > > > > > week I would have agreed with you about the diminishing role > of > > > US in > > > > > > > > space. Now, I will take a rain check on it and see what > gives in > > > the > > > > > > > next > > > > > > > > four. Yes, an optimist to the core:) > > > > > > > > > > Woman in space? I know we can take higher sustained G's, but > had > > > not > > > > > > > > lent credence to proposed weaknesses in space, as we don't > have > > > > > enough > > > > > > > > research on it yet. Adaptation in space is buggers for > anyone > > > and > > > > > only a > > > > > > > > generational route can make that adaptation feasible > physically > > > and > > > > > > > > psychologically. I mean, how are they going to get around > bone > > > > > density? > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > avenue is genetic engineering to evolve a musculoskeletal > human > > > that > > > > > can > > > > > > > > take deep space. Could never stand Earth G afterword though, > so > > > > > space > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > be your home. Just think how different that humanity would > > > > > be...Spacers. > > > > > > > > > > One thing that I hope develops quickly is this composite NASA > has > > > > > been > > > > > > > > working on (for years) that combats radiation. NO ONE is > going > > > to > > > > > last > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > there without that. If we ever see our way to artificial G's > > > without > > > > > > > > rotation!!! Syonara Blue Planet:) > > > > > > > > > > Like Arthur C. Clarke, I believe many things are possible in > > > space > > > > > and my > > > > > > > > sweetest wish it to live long enough to see it all happen. > Ah, > > > > > well:) > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:51 AM, ornamentalmind < > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > "...What do you think of the future of space stations?..." > CB > > > > > > > > > > > You may not like my answer. What I THINK about it is that > their > > > > > future > > > > > > > > > is very dire. And the role of the US will continue to > diminish. > > > > > > > > > > > I also have a strange intuition about the overall future of > > > 'wo/man > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > space' being very dire too, something about not being able > to > > > > > adapt. > > > > > > > > > > > IF huwo/manity survives, a low probability, it seems our > > > 'travel' > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > have to take some other form than what is commonly thought > of > > > now > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > most. > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for asking! I don't think anyone has ever asked > me > > > this > > > > > > > > > before, yet I've been contemplating it for a long time. And > no, > > > my > > > > > > > > > time is not spent walking the streets with a sign saying > the > > > end is > > > > > > > > > near! : - ) > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 6:42 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Orn, > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I guess I jumped on any excuse to talk about > > > > > aerospace/military, > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > > abuse intended to you. It is a shared hobby/career at my > > > house, > > > > > and > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > met so many interesting people in that industry. As you > can > > > > > tell, I > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > close to the military and have family and friends in most > > > > > government > > > > > > > > > > agencies, and love to discuss them, good and bad. Space > > > > > propulsion > > > > > > > is my > > > > > > > > > > favorite. > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember hearing about Avro Arrow but it was more for > manned > > > > > travel. > > > > > > > > > Geeks > > > > > > > > > > that designed it came out of Canada and started working > for > > > > > > > NASA....yep, > > > > > > > > > 10 > > > > > > > > > > years later "walkin on the moon". Nice story:) You > would > > > like > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > book... > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.avroarrow.org/AvroArrow/Avroengineers.html > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think of the future of space stations? Russia > has > > > a > > > > > stick > > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > bum right now, so wonder how that will affect > > > collaborations?? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:17 PM, ornamentalmind < > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...The original deployment system for North > America..." - > > > orn > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I feel confused, used and perhaps abused. I was > basing > > > my > > > > > > > comment > > > > > > > > > > > on what I thought was a documentary film a few years > ago as > > > > > well as > > > > > > > > > > > some online research I did at the time. > > > > > > > > > > > Now it appears that, even though there remains much > > > > > misinformation > > > > > > > > > > > about the company, planes and cause of demise, the > > > information > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > > have been a bit of mythomania. Specifically, I am > talking > > > about > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Avro Arrow. As I remember it, there were reports, films > and > > > > > > > > > > > discussions about it's capability to launch satellites > into > > > > > > > space…now > > > > > > > > > > > I can't find the sources. So, will table it for now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:24 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Orn, I was referring to your own passage below in the > > > > > reference > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > satellite > > > > > > > > > > > > delivery systems... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <<<The original deployment system for North America > was > > > going > > > > > > > > > > > > to be a plane and 'business' and nationalism got in > the > > > > > way.>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that response I sent was directly pointed to this > > > sentence. > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > original > > > > > > > > > > > > deployment vehicles were always to be rocketry. Big, > > > fast, > > > > > and > > > > > > > ugly. > > > > > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > > > used rocket delivery instead of aircraft for the > obvious > > > > > reasons, > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > I am > > > > > > > > > > > > sure you know. Mostly, I think, because we could > test > > > > > missile > > > > > > > > > > > capabilities > > > > > > > > > > > > simultaneously demonstrating how far our reach > > > extended...on > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > sides > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > course. Cold War contest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very important stuff, those satellites. practical > uses > > > for > > > > > > > military > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > civilians. This tech birthed GPS, which was only > used by > > > the > > > > > > > > > military > > > > > > > > > > > > until, what, the last 10 years? Not a bad > innovation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ode to Arthur C. Clarke:) > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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